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Originally posted by h1a8
Where have you guys been for the last few years? It has been calculated to death.

It takes billions of times more force to destroy something from far away without coming in contact with it than to actually come in contact with it.
Hulk destroyed a planet without touching it, from afar. Therefore, Hulk applied billions of times more force necessary to do that by making actual contact. Hulk was subject to such force when colliding with Betty. Hulk wasn't visibly damaged.

Hence, Hulk tanked a force capable of destroying a billion planets without any visible damage.


*sigh*

The planet didn't explode literally... The Earth Crust was damaged then it exploded...

Hulk died and was resurrected by the Wishing Well.

Fan-calculations are shit.

Sentry tanked many planet-busting explosions with ZERO damages when he fought Genis Vell.

Anyway Sentry is at least in Molecule Man's class so he doesn't belongs here with those weaklings.


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So Sentry can place an entire multiverse in a shoe box and place it on his shelf huh? Reality Warper needs a reality check.


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So Sentry can place an entire multiverse in a shoe box and place it on his shelf huh? Reality Warper needs a reality check.


Sentry destroyed this guy in a reality warping contest despite lacking Molecule Man's years of experience.

YOU need a REALITY CHECK.


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When did the Molecule Man ever begin to warp reality during Siege? From what I saw, he simply reversed Owen's powers. At this point you will need proof for these wild claims. I know that Sentry is powerful, but you've inflated him beyond any writer's intent. Not even Enzeru would make such wild claims without solid proof, and here you are making claims that he would destroy Thanos, and a Phoenix avatar without having ever seen him defeat anyone above Thor, and that was when he finally got his shit together.

You must be Quan's sock.


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When did the Molecule Man ever begin to warp reality during Siege?


Siege is after Dark Avengers.

You don't even know the chronology of the events and you are still talking ?

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From what I saw, he simply reversed Owen's powers.


It is stated anywhere that he reversed anything.

Owen and Sentry attacked each others molecules and Sentry won.

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At this point you will need proof for these wild claims.


I guess that you are ironical at this point.

I am still waiting you to back-up your bold claim that Sentry reversed Owen's powers. Hilarious. Really.


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I know that Sentry is powerful, but you've inflated him beyond any writer's intent. Not even Enzeru would make such wild claims without solid proof, and here you are making claims that he would destroy Thanos, and a Phoenix avatar without having ever seen him defeat anyone above Thor, and that was when he finally got his shit together.


I didn't think that you will write a complete paragraph as a joke. You almost got me, really.

Let's see:

The Void beat the complete roster of the Avengers, including Thor.
Void lolstomped Hulk.

Sentry kick Void's ass everytime because they are equivalent in power...

Sentry shitstomped Owen Reece whom, as far as I know, is more powerful than anyone Hulk has beaten in his entire fictional life.

Speaking about the writer, Bendis said in an interview that Sentry's power is to manipulate the reality at a molecular level and there is no limit to the power he has.

In short:

Sentry is a reality warper with unlimited power.



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You must be Quan's sock.



Are your feeelings hurt by a fictional character ?

Please tell us more about it. laughing out loud


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ENOUGH TALK!!!!

I DEMAND A BATTLEZEONE TO SETTLE THIS!!!

Stoic(WORLDBREAKER Hulk) vs RealityWarper(SentrymessedIEGE)

MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!


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Originally posted by RealityWarper
*sigh*

The planet didn't explode literally... The Earth Crust was damaged then it exploded...

Hulk died and was resurrected by the Wishing Well.

Fan-calculations are shit.

Sentry tanked many planet-busting explosions with ZERO damages when he fought Genis Vell.

Anyway Sentry is at least in Molecule Man's class so he doesn't belongs here with those weaklings.


The planet was destroyed. Glad we agree there.
There is no evidence that Hulk died or even was hurt.

Hulk doesn't hit with planet busting blows, he hits with billion planet busting blows. Astronomical difference.

The problem with the Vell feat is that Cap (i believe) easily survived those blows. Thus, seems more like hyperbole to me.


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The planet was destroyed. Glad we agree there.
There is no evidence that Hulk died or even was hurt.


There is evidence that he is killed and resurrected like everyone else.

It is said twice in the comics, one time by Banner and one time by the Hulk himself:

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Hulk doesn't hit with planet busting blows, he hits with billion planet busting blows. Astronomical difference.


That's Argumentum Ex Culo.

That's the collision of both Red SheHulk and WBH that created a chain reaction leading to destroy the planet.

We see on panel the atmosphere beginning to burn before the Earth crust begin to break, we are far from an attack instantly destroying the planet and still we knows that Hulk and the others perished in the assault.


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The problem with the Vell feat is that Cap (i believe) easily survived those blows. Thus, seems more like hyperbole to me.


Cap was teleported out of the Microverse by Genis Vell.

The caption, which is the omniscient narrator words, say that tey release enough energy to destroy entire worlds so there is nothing to discuss, just accept the feat.


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Realitywarper, do you ACCEPT the Battlezone challenge?


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Siege is after Dark Avengers.

You don't even know the chronology of the events and you are still talking ?



It is stated anywhere that he reversed anything.

Owen and Sentry attacked each others molecules and Sentry won.



I guess that you are ironical at this point.

I am still waiting you to back-up your bold claim that Sentry reversed Owen's powers. Hilarious. Really.




I didn't think that you will write a complete paragraph as a joke. You almost got me, really.

Let's see:

The Void beat the complete roster of the Avengers, including Thor.
Void lolstomped Hulk.

Sentry kick Void's ass everytime because they are equivalent in power...

Sentry shitstomped Owen Reece whom, as far as I know, is more powerful than anyone Hulk has beaten in his entire fictional life.

Speaking about the writer, Bendis said in an interview that Sentry's power is to manipulate the reality at a molecular level and there is no limit to the power he has.

In short:

Sentry is a reality warper with unlimited power.






Are your feeelings hurt by a fictional character ?

Please tell us more about it. laughing out loud


Do you have these statements? At this point I'm having trouble believing that you were able to interpret the statement. None of what you said has proven that Sentry was ever on the level of the current Molecule Man. You've made some wild claims now bring forth some equally wild proof. Oh and no, a fictional character hasn't gotten under my skin. It's really the idea that anyone that can make up so many wild claims without solid proof to back them has me scratching my head til the white meat has begun to show. How about we begin with the interview. Once we are done there let's dig up some feats that give some examples of Sentry being as powerful as Galactus, let alone Owen.

The very last time that I saw Sentry he helped Rogue, meaning that it was a shared feat.

Then he was swallowed whole by a giant sand worm.

That last one was a BFR, but if he was that powerful why wouldn't he just bust out? Why didn't he warp reality? For some reason I can't see that sand worm being an issue for WB Hulk let alone Owen.

Bring some proof please.


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The REAL battle takes place here!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t647635.html


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Realitywarper, do you ACCEPT the Battlezone challenge?
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I reject the challenge. Because you are no challenge. But I'll be happy to beat up on you some more.
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YOU DERANGED, DEMENTED, DINO, DUMBASS REALITY WARPER WOULD NEVER ADDRESS THE MIGHTY LOB IN THAT MANNER!!!


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Do you have these statements? At this point I'm having trouble believing that you were able to interpret the statement.


The burden of proof is on you to prove that "Sentry reversed Molecule Man".

That's your claim, pal. Not mine.

Now show proof.



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None of what you said has proven that Sentry was ever on the level of the current Molecule Man. You've made some wild claims now bring forth some equally wild proof.


Hilarious.

Please go on ignoring everything.

Hey, you're not the first one trying to wilfully ignore everything.

Tony Stark said YEARS before the fight between Molecule Man that Sentry can start a new House of M event on a WHIM.

Still, I am waiting for you to justify your claim (the burden of proof is on you, once more) that Molecule Man wasn't on his regular levels of power, by showing Molecule Man saying that he CANNOT DO SOMETHING WITH HIS POWERS.

That's how Molecule Man powers works:

If he admit that he can do something, then he can.

If he admit that he cannot do something, then he cannot.

Plain and simple.

Now show us the scans where Molecule Man said that he is somehow weakened/depowered/cannot do something.

laughing out loud


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Oh and no, a fictional character hasn't gotten under my skin. It's really the idea that anyone that can make up so many wild claims without solid proof to back them has me scratching my head til the white meat has begun to show.


You are the one making wild claims. Not me.

You are ill informed at best.

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How about we begin with the interview.


*sigh*

RIGHT HERE:

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[b]Brian Michael Bendis talks about Sentry's power set:

Bendis: "We've now unveiled all of our cards - about who the Sentry is and what his powers are. We've unveiled in Dark Avengers #12 that the Sentry, on top of his powers, has powers like the Molecule Man. He actually has the ability to craft / to form a reality from a molecular level. And that's where his powers have come from. [...] And there is no limit to the power level that he has."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AzWzxcV74
(Starts at 2:05)



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Once we are done there let's dig up some feats that give some examples of Sentry being as powerful as Galactus, let alone Owen.


Sentry fighting Galactus to a standstill happened, said twice in the comics by Spider-man and Nate Grey.

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The very last time that I saw Sentry he helped Rogue, meaning that it was a shared feat.


Sure, pal.

Despite the fact that Rogue wasn't even as powerful to affect Exitar at all.

If your 5 years old cousin "help" you to lift 100 kilos I guess that's a shared feat too, right ?

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Then he was swallowed whole by a giant sand worm.


That's cool, pal.

Lobo was one-shot by Batman. :/

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That last one was a BFR, but if he was that powerful why wouldn't he just bust out?


What ? English please.


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Why didn't he warp reality?


He didn't know that he could.

You are arguing against a character you know nothing about.

Nice try. thumb up


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For some reason I can't see that sand worm being an issue for WB Hulk let alone Owen.


For some reason I can't see you having an healthy debate about a character that you hate against a character that you wank. laughing out loud

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Bring some proof please.



- Bring some coherent arguments on your side.
- Try to get information from both sides because here it's obvious that you know nothing about Sentry besides rumours spreads by ill informed person around the internet.
- Stop wilfully ignoring everything, you are embarassing yourself.


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YOU DERANGED, DEMENTED, DINO, DUMBASS REALITY WARPER WOULD NEVER ADDRESS THE MIGHTY LOB IN THAT MANNER!!!



KNEEL BEFORE THY MASTER, LOB ! THOU WILL BE FORGIVETH THIS TIME !


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The burden of proof is on you to prove that "Sentry reversed Molecule Man".

That's your claim, pal. Not mine.

Now show proof.





Hilarious.

Please go on ignoring everything.

Hey, you're not the first one trying to wilfully ignore everything.

Tony Stark said YEARS before the fight between Molecule Man that Sentry can start a new House of M event on a WHIM.

Still, I am waiting for you to justify your claim (the burden of proof is on you, once more) that Molecule Man wasn't on his regular levels of power, by showing Molecule Man saying that he CANNOT DO SOMETHING WITH HIS POWERS.

That's how Molecule Man powers works:

If he admit that he can do something, then he can.

If he admit that he cannot do something, then he cannot.

Plain and simple.

Now show us the scans where Molecule Man said that he is somehow weakened/depowered/cannot do something.

laughing out loud




You are the one making wild claims. Not me.

You are ill informed at best.



*sigh*

RIGHT HERE:






Sentry fighting Galactus to a standstill happened, said twice in the comics by Spider-man and Nate Grey.



Sure, pal.

Despite the fact that Rogue wasn't even as powerful to affect Exitar at all.

If your 5 years old cousin "help" you to lift 100 kilos I guess that's a shared feat too, right ?



That's cool, pal.

Lobo was one-shot by Batman. :/



What ? English please.




He didn't know that he could.

You are arguing against a character you know nothing about.

Nice try. thumb up




For some reason I can't see you having an healthy debate about a character that you hate against a character that you wank. laughing out loud




- Bring some coherent arguments on your side.
- Try to get information from both sides because here it's obvious that you know nothing about Sentry besides rumours spreads by ill informed person around the internet.
- Stop wilfully ignoring everything, you are embarassing yourself.


The only thing that I've read from you thus far has ended in making you appear to be extremely apprensive when I'm just asking simple questions. The BEG statement that I made was centered around D'S Sentry, which is when he got his powers under control. You can be as pedantic as you like, but it just makes you look like an idiot. There was a time when Senrmtry was unable to take Namor down, let alone a physical threat like WB Hulk. Then he ripped Ares apart, which wasn't anything that WB Hulk wouldn't gave been able to easily replicate. I actually have always liked Sentry. It's his rabid fans that I question. But back on topic, who did Sentry slaughter on WB Hulk s level? Youbshoulx also take note that I never once said that Owen was weakened, which was once again you being extremely apprehensive.


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Stupid spell check. BFR. XS Sentry took a BFR against the sand worm. That's what I meant. Owen manipulates molecules, not reality. So yes in his reality he can mess with most if not all molecules. This however is different from setting a universal standard that all or most would have to follow. There is a difference. Then again, like I said you are probably interpreting things wrong.


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KNEEL BEFORE THY MASTER, LOB ! THOU WILL BE FORGIVETH THIS TIME !


HERE is the true battlefield!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t647635.html

Step up or be marked a COWARD and DESERTER of The Sentry!


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