Biggest determining factor for carry on's is where you live. District of Columbia, New York City, or Chicago and you can pretty forget about owning a carry and conceal permit. In somewhere like Vermont, you might own 40 guns and sleep with one under your pillow (Knew a guy who did this..)
Next factor is criminal record.. For example, if you don't have a permit and fire a handgun, even if you get off on an AA (Accelerate rehabilitation) which acts as a one time "get out of jail free" card and wipes your record, you still won't be permitted to ever own a gun (Unsure if it's that state, or anywhere. As we're talking a federal crime being required, I'd guess no guns period in the US..)
Long barrel guns strictly for home defense are a different story, and also for hunting and such, because you can't exactly stick one under your shirt or easily carry it around.
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If you have physical issues, owning one is probably a smart idea. Home invasion scares the shit out of me, but even in London we don't have much of an issue with it. Even if someone did break in, they'd probably get scared off by my dog. But in America, the level of violence is much higher, the threat much higher too. So for you, owning a gun is probably the best idea.
It is just sad how everything sets them off here. Saying something as simple and true as "thank god he had that gun or it would have been worse" somehow flips a switch in the brains of people to make them think this is a call to defend their anti-gun stance lol. Like I personally shoved a hot poker in their eye by acknowledging in this scenario things would have been worse if he wasn't armed.
I just can't take it seriously lol. Not when something that shouldn't be controversial is suddenly seen as such.
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not the situation of the article, but if a thread's topic is tainted by narrative, it should be pointed out and scrutinized.
not only does it imply that having a gun equals always having upper hand, but also some underlying assumption that this is a typical home invasion that everyone should be prepared for with firearms, when it's actually atypical. so in this scenario, it worked out. in most scenarios, people rob you when you're not home and probably are unarmed because they were watching you for days and know that nobody's home.
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Indeed, and it's why if it's gun vs gun or knife vs knife...my best option is still gun vs gun.
And now you could also say the same about : most women and most elderly folk.
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Lol no, these are the assumptions YOU make to justify your own responses. I never said a gun always means the upper hand.
I think more people here are starting to see how you pull BS like this lol. You literally invented a narrative here. All the while *you* are telling someone else what I did or did not truly mean to imply, lol.
If saying "thank god he was armed" taints a topic about a guy saving his family with a gun...that's just lunacy lol.
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Israeli's are some of the most pro gun ownership people on the planet. They're like poster boys for the NRA.
American Jews are generally anti gun ownership, espcially in the cities.
Not sure why this is.. Maybe because in the case of a united country, guns keep them alive, while in a city even if all jewish people unified with guns against the anti semites of a city, they'd be swamped by sheer numbers? So, in that case argue for no guns for anybody?
Just a guess, I dunno what it could really be.
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But...I did. I said before: one true thing does not negate another true thing.
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good, so we agree that the "be prepared for this specific situation and get a rifle like dad" narrative is kinda dumb. THANK GOD
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If you made all guns illegal in the US, then the chances of the person breaking and entering (a criminal) having a gun wouldn't go down as much of the chance of the person in the home (a law-abiding citizen) having a gun. Which would be a lot more dangerous a situation.
^^Again, I said thank god this man had a rifle because it allowed him to protect his family. You are throwing a fit over that. It's not dumb for me to say it is good this man had a firearm. You are either trolling or a lunatic lol.
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I think you're underestimating just how bloodthirsty some people are.
Unfortunately, where you or I might be repulsed at the idea, someone else might get excited.. (If you're breaking into someone's home and carrying in a knife, and making threats, I'd assume you're likely the latter..)
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Sure, but he's saying psychologically they're harder to use.
Not if you're a sadistic monster, they're not. Like a thug with a knife breaking into your home and making threats might be.
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Who said make all guns illegal? I didn’t say that’s necessary or even feasible. How about just doing our best to prevent criminals from having access to guns?
Most gun violence is committed by people who legally purchased the firearm. Even a modest effort to prevent gun sales to these dangerous/unstable people could lower the amount of criminals with guns. If it saves the lives of even 1 family wouldn’t you say it’s worth the inconvenience?
if i was paranoid over knife wielding home invaders, i'd sooner have a machete or katana. something that simply cannot be reasoned away as "probably fake", "he's just bluffing", "i bet it's not loaded". something that i dont have to go through a process of unlocking a case and loading bullets, while the knife-weilder presumably remains courteous and waits for me to finish.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
i think a large blade is way more scary than a bat. imho the goal should be to make them rethink their actions and gtfo.
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