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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Terribly sad


Not happy to say this, but the Rightist are winning here. Whenever there's a mass shooting, they drop their thoughts + prayers, claim it's disrespectful to the victims and their families to talk about gun regulations now and that holds until we roll into the next shooting and the cycle starts over.


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Not happy to say this, but the Rightist are winning here. Whenever there's a mass shooting, they drop their thoughts + prayers, claim it's disrespectful to the victims and their families to talk about gun regulations now and that holds until we roll into the next shooting and the cycle starts over.


The Michigan shooter had a previous firearm conviction, yet still owned guns.


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The Michigan shooter had a previous firearm conviction, yet still owned guns.


That story has been updated, the felony charge was dropped in return for pleading guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge.


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That story has been updated, the felony charge was dropped in return for pleading guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge.


Anyone with a gun charge of any kind should not be allowed to own guns.


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Anyone with a gun charge of any kind should not be allowed to own guns.


Why do you hate freedoms, PoE.


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Texas School Official Leaves Gun in Student Bathroom

A 3rd grader in Rising Star found a gun the superintendent left in a school bathroom. Superintendent Robby Stuteville confirms the 3rd grader found the gun back in January and notified a teacher immediately without moving or touching the weapon.

Stuteville walked through the incident, explaining that both he and the school principal open carry on campus. When he was using the restroom, Stuteville says he took the gun off and placed it in a stall, where it was then left unattended until it was found by the student.

"There was never a danger other than the obvious," Stuteville claimed.


No shit, Sherlock.


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Seems like the children are more in danger from their teachers carrying guns.


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https://www.npr.org/2023/03/28/1166...nt-what-we-know

Shooting in Nashville at a private christian school left three children under 10 dead and three adults. The adult shooter was a former student.

The shooter was able to legally purchase seven firearms, a few of them assault-weapon style rifles, what was used to carry out the murders.

President Biden once again called on the Republican-controlled House to pass gun reform, Republicans responded with a hard "no" via their standard "now is not the time to talk a bout politics, we need to send our thoughts and prayers to the victim's families".

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https://www.npr.org/2023/03/28/1166...nt-what-we-know

Shooting in Nashville at a private christian school left three children under 10 dead and three adults. The adult shooter was a former student.

The shooter was able to legally purchase seven firearms, a few of them assault-weapon style rifles, what was used to carry out the murders.

President Biden once again called on the Republican-controlled House to pass gun reform, Republicans responded with a hard "no" via their standard "now is not the time to talk a bout politics, we need to send our thoughts and prayers to the victim's families".

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Shooter also had a history of documented emotional problems. But we can't even have Red Flag laws because it makes the Rightist slide down their slippery slope while going "Rreeeeeee!!!!" all the way down.


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Shooter also had a history of documented emotional problems. But we can't even have Red Flag laws because it makes the Rightist slide down their slippery slope while going "Rreeeeeee!!!!" all the way down.
it really is shocking how freedom becomes confused with ease to murder.

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Shooter also had a history of documented emotional problems. But we can't even have Red Flag laws because it makes the Rightist slide down their slippery slope while going "Rreeeeeee!!!!" all the way down.


What's also disgusting is that the Right are hyper focused on the fact that the shooter was allegedly a transman and are exploiting these deaths to further their anti-trans war, labelling all trans people as "murderers", "terrorists", "demons" etc., with some pushing the idea that no trans people should be allowed access to firearms. Which is something you never see them do if the shooter is a white, Christian male. Then it's a "lone wolf" that has no affiliation with them, even when the shooter's manifesto directly mirrors a bunch of Right-wing pundit talking points.

The issue is the psychotic gun culture in the US. It's the common denominator every damn time, regardless of the background, identity or ideology of the shooter. And, yes, guns themselves don't kill people. But they make it a hell of a lot easier for people to kill people.



When your country is the overwhelming leader of gun-related deaths across a variety of categories, you need to re-evaluate how they fit into your society.


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You mean the same way Adam Poe searches far and wide for abuse in the church to push an agenda against the church? Ignoring the fact that many of the clergy who are child molesters also happen to be gay, and so this says as much about gays as it does about religion (As a man in Germany proved from documented evidence and was convicted of slander against lgbt, in spite of using irrefutable facts)


But no bad comparison because this narrative does not exist, the mainstream right is NOT attacking Trans people. Maybe extremists are, that hardly reflects the right proper.


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What's also disgusting is that the Right are hyper focused on the fact that the shooter was allegedly a transman and are exploiting these deaths to further their anti-trans war, labelling all trans people as "murderers", "terrorists", "demons" etc., with some pushing the idea that no trans people should be allowed access to firearms. Which is something you never see them do if the shooter is a white, Christian male. Then it's a "lone wolf" that has no affiliation with them, even when the shooter's manifesto directly mirrors a bunch of Right-wing pundit talking points.

The issue is the psychotic gun culture in the US. It's the common denominator every damn time, regardless of the background, identity or ideology of the shooter. And, yes, guns themselves don't kill people. But they make it a hell of a lot easier for people to kill people.



When your country is the overwhelming leader of gun-related deaths across a variety of categories, you need to re-evaluate how they fit into your society.



If the shooter is a heterosexual White male, then it’s “lone wolf”, “mental Illness”, “thoughts and prayers”.

Otherwise it’s as you say, “violence of Black culture”, “violent Islam”, “violent migrants”, “trans sickness” etc.


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I don't see what the big deal is, school shootings are natural. The third chapter of the Adventures of the Israelites has God-sama command Abraham-kun to sacrifice his son Isaac-chan. Chapter five has Moses slaughter children ahead of his political rally.

It's all right there, just read the Bible Manga. God loves dead children. School shooters are American. God loves America. QED.


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Originally posted by Robtard
If the shooter is a heterosexual White male, then it’s “lone wolf”, “mental Illness”, “thoughts and prayers”.

Otherwise it’s as you say, “violence of Black culture”, “violent Islam”, “violent migrants”, “trans sickness” etc.


What's also stupid to me is people on the Right trying to just focus on mental illness (or minorities or even unlocked side doors if they get the opportunity) and claim guns aren't the problem.

Yet mental illness isn't exclusive to the US. It's a something that's present within the human population of every country. And yet the US is unique with regards to the amount of mass shootings and such that take place. So, what's the difference then? The amount and ease of access people have to firearms in the United States, as well as the culture among many there (particularly on the Right) that glorifies gun use.

Now, will stronger regulation and restrictions immediately stop all gun violence? No. But it will immediately stop some and over time even more, as the amount of guns in circulation, both legal and illegal, will decrease.

But the gun nuts don't want to hear it.


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The difference is inner city gang violence.


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The difference is inner city gang violence.



This from the mouth of Michael Bloomberg;


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Bloomberg claimed that 95 percent of murders fall into a specific category: male, minority and between the ages of 15 and 25. Cities need to get guns out of this group’s hands and keep them alive, he said.

“These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed,” Bloomberg said. “They just don’t have any long-term focus or anything. It’s a joke to have a gun. It’s a joke to pull a trigger.”

At one point, the former mayor brought up New York City’s stop-and-frisk practices, which gained national attention in 2011. Bloomberg said that during his last year in office, a minister at a Baptist church in Harlem invited him to speak.

“While I’m sitting there waiting for him to introduce me, he said to his congregation, ‘You know, if every one of you stopped and frisked your kid before they went out at night, the mayor wouldn’t have to do it,’” Bloomberg said. “And so I knew I was going to be okay with that audience.”


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Odd target for a random shooting, as opposed to a robbery.


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