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Originally posted by Robtard
Not all the polls were wrong. IBD/TIPP had Trump winning. His approval rating with them is not good. Not. Good. At. All.

Granted, Trumpers still love him and they likely always will, no matter how many wet shits he takes on the office and country, but he's losing others who voted for him over just to not vote for Clinton fast.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Not all the polls were wrong. IBD/TIPP had Trump winning. His approval rating with them is not good. Not. Good. At. All.

Granted, Trumpers still love him and they likely always will, no matter how many wet shits he takes on the office and country, but he's losing others who voted for him over just to not vote for Clinton fast.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
No, even his voters are dropping off. There is an entire subreddit dedicated to capture, from social media, all people who once supported but not regret Trump.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, some, I've seen those "I trusted you Trump!" type comments from those crying Trumpers and their butthurt gives me strength.

But the Trumper mass still has around a 75ish approval rating for Trump, iirc. Has it changed drastically recently, within two months or so? If so, spill. I want to bask in the glory.

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Originally posted by Robtard
You are with my pole.

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Originally posted by Mindset
I'm calling the cops

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah, looks like it is holding steady, lately:


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...rez_track_nov28


I think it has stabilized and he will settle in around 40 for a while.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
It might. However, the Trump support is getting smaller and smaller as time goes on, according to the polls. I know, those damn polls were wrong before but they were wrong by a margin, not completely wrong.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The polls were wrong by a margin of 2%. That's not enough to make Trump popular. Not tat Trump won on the basis of popularity..

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Originally posted by dadudemon
some were off over 7.5%. My range of 2%-5% was to capture a majority that were off. If I wanted to mention an average, which would not make my point, I would have mentioned a national average number, like you did (which I could not verify: I could not prove what you posted).

For example, Wisconsin's polling was off by 6.5%.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...e-embarrassment

More poignantly:

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Pollster John Zogby believes that many in the industry weighted their polls too heavily in favor of Democrats, pointing to polls that had an 8- to 9-point advantage for the party, when it should have been in the 4- to 5-point range, he said.

...


The rest of the [national] polls showed Clinton with leads of between 2 and 6 points, boosting the Democrat to a 3.3-point national lead in the RealClearPolitics average.

And to cover the polls:


http://www.dailywire.com/news/10660...-james-barrett#


WISCONSIN – off by 7+
Polls: Clinton +6.5 (46.8 – 40.3)
Results: TRUMP +1 (48 – 47)

IOWA – off by 7
Polls: Trump +3 (44.3 – 41.3)
Results: Trump +10 (52 – 42)

OHIO – off by 4+
Polls: Trump +3.5 (45.8 – 42.3)
Result: Trump +8 (52 – 44)

MICHIGAN – off by 4+
Polls: Clinton +3.4 (45.4 – 42)
Results: TRUMP +1 (48 – 47)

MINNESOTA – off by 3
Polls: Clinton +5 (45.3 – 40.3)
Results: Clinton +2 (47 – 45)

NEVADA – off by 3
Polls: Trump +0.8 (45.8 – 45)
Results: CLINTON +2 (48 – 46)

NEW MEXICO – off by 3
Polls: Clinton +5 (45.3 – 40.3)
Results: Clinton +8 (48 – 45)

NORTH CAROLINA – off by 3
Polls: Trump +1 (46.5 – 45.5)
Results: Trump +4 (51 – 47)

PENNSYLVANIA – off by 3
Polls: Clinton +1.9 (46.2 – 44.3)
Result: TRUMP +1 (49 – 48)

MAINE – off by 1+
Polls: Clinton +4.5 (44 – 39.5)
Resutls: Clinton +3 (48 – 45)

ARIZONA – off by 1
Polls: Trump +4 (46.3 – 42.3)
Results: Trump +5 (50 – 45)

COLORADO – off by 1
Polls: Clinton +2.9 (43.3 – 40.4)
Results: Clinton +2 (47 – 45)

FLORIDA – close
Polls: Trump +0.2 (46.6 – 46.4)
Result: Trump +1 (49 – 48)

GEORGIA – close
Polls: Trump +4.6 (48.4 – 43.8)
Results: Trump +5 (51 – 46)

NEW HAMPSHIRE – close
Polls: Clinton +0.6 (43.3 – 42.7)
Results: Clinton +1 (48 – 47)

VIRGINIA – correct
Polls: Clinton +5 (47.3 – 42.3)
Results: Clinton +5 (50 – 45)




And here are the predictions by pollsters:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...inton-5491.html

Some have Clinton as high as +18 points.


What was my original point? My original point was we would need to show results that would very comfortably beat this polling error average in order for the distrusting American people to trust the results. My point of 2-5% was rather important: definitely have to beat that to instill confidence.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
some where off for the average of 7.5% by state while specific pollsters were off by over 18 points (two different types of numbers but very much similar).

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Originally posted by Robtard
This "half the country voted for Trump" mindset is also wrong. Trump garnered 62.9 million votes (Clinton 65.8, she was more popular). There's about 310million US citizens (ie voters) in the US and abroad.

So only about 20% of the country voted for Trump.

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Originally posted by Surtur
Lmao. Good stuff.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean...he can keep parroting his factually incorrect narrative if he wants. I'll just repost it every time he tries to pass of the 2 points thing as legit.

Average was not 2 points, ever. The lowest end was 2 points, sure. But the highest end was 6 and the average was 3.3.

As I pointed out, some were off by 18 points, in favor of Hillary. How do you bungle that so badly? That should be the real conspiracy, here.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean...he can keep parroting his factually incorrect narrative if he wants. I'll just repost it every time he tries to pass of the 2 points thing as legit.

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factually incorrect narrative

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I would caution on using that last number as it is a garbage number mixing in bad variables (non-eligible voters) with good variables (eligible voters).

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incorrect narrative

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Again double D, you're conflating the polls of a few states with national polls. We're not discussing Trump's popularity in battleground states, we're discussing his popularity nationally.

Cherrypicking the polls in a few states to say I'm parroting a factually incorrect narrative is parroting a




Bad variables like the tens of thousands of voters(mostly democrat) per state who don't vote due to Voter ID policy that even the conservative controlled supreme court admitted was "partisan".

But let's talk about voter fraud which there remains no widespread evidence of so that you can keep parroting a

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean...he can keep parroting his factually incorrect narrative if he wants. I'll just repost it every time he tries to pass of the 2 points thing as legit.

Average was not 2 points, ever. The lowest end was 2 points, sure. But the highest end was 6 and the average was 3.3.

As I pointed out, some were off by 18 points, in favor of Hillary. How do you bungle that so badly? That should be the real conspiracy, here.

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Clinton +2.1

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some were off over 7.5%. My range of 2%-5% was to capture a majority that were off. If I wanted to mention an average, which would not make my point, I would have mentioned a national average number, like you did (which I could not verify: I could not prove what you posted).

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My original point was we would need to show results that would very comfortably beat this polling error average in order for the distrusting American people to trust the results.