See the next panel. Surfer is actually struggling. Remember, this is a guy some say is able to hang with the frickin' Hulk in h2h.
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Allowing someone to restrain you, means you're not struggling at all. Like a 5 year old holding onto my leg and pretending to restrain me. I wouldn't be grimacing like that, nor would my words be strained in that manner. Or even that Ahh!
If in the comic, Surfer then goes 'haha I was pretending all along!' like I do when my nephew pretends to shoot me, then sure, the interview backs up what's shown on panel.
Also doesn't bode well for his reactions if again, a human-ish level Panther is able to surprise him with a flip.
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Also reminds me of the time Board Walker peddled that rubbish theory that Superman tore a hole in the multiverse. I tweeted the author and he confirmed he was wrong. Didn't need the info from the author but it is there.
Dismissed? He is struggling against a group of them before unleashing a blast while on the ropes. The rest of the Corps are battling the shadows. Then Ultraman nearly beats him silly and may have won is he allowed Superman’s help.
The author describes it himself unless you believe he was lying or is wrong?
By allowing to restrain I mean he isn't actively trying to break out which he wasn't. He wanted Panther to feel like he had an advantage. So naturally grimacing and making noises etc is a pretty good way pf doing that.
In reply to your edit. What you are saying only makes sense if you believe that Surfer wasn't allowing himself to be restrained despite what the comic alludes to and what the author clarified.
So if you are coming from that point of view then I can't argue with that. If Surfer wasn't deliberately wanting to be restrained then I would agree with you entirely. But to me that doesn't reflect what was shown.
I don't know if you remember the Bendis interview but he makes the good point where it really is unnatural to have someone blurt out "if x couldn't do this then we couldn't have went to x".
Then show it in the comic. Otherwise, this is a prime example of:
If there is dialogue from Surfer saying words to the effect of 'got ya good, T'Charlie! My act fooled even you!' (or words like that. I suck at dialogue), then sure, it refutes what's happening on panel.
Otherwise, until I see it from the comic, it's.....yeah. Completely inadmissible.
That's because you are acting like media has to have in big bold writing "BREAKING NEWS SURFER WAS ONLY LETTING PANTHER HOLD HIM". (I don't mean this next sentence rudely).
The way you are debating this it's like you need to be given hints to what is happening exactly otherwise you can't know and will remain bemused as to what the answer is.
Again I said once on the topic of Sentry that when he thought Blue Marvel the lekaing Negative Zzone affected him. Which seems pretty obvious to me but not many believed it. So I ask the author and he says its correct. I didn't need proof. Its pretty natural to connect the 2.
What happens if Surfer straightens his right elbow in that scan? Try it now. Put your right hand behind your back. What's stopping you from straightening it? The bicep of an enhanced human? Imagine you're class 100. Would that enhanced human be able to stop your class 100 tricep from straightening your arm????
I think that scene was obvious since right after that, Surfer got pissed when Stardust attacked Panther. It was obvious he allowed him to do that so that Panther would talk.
Val Zod's fights and feats do not put him anywhere near regular Superman.
Same with any of these. The only one with feats close to Surfer would be E2 Alan, and that would be a case of consistency due to him having so few feats.
If you think of any these are on Surfer's level I'd consider getting your brain checked or choosing one of them to BZ me, or any of Surfer's real fans who I'm sure would be more than delighted at the idea.
This is gonna sound weird....but yeah, I am saying exactly that.
Because comics aren't written for battleboards. Dwayne/Hickman/Morrison et al don't care two hoots about what happened in issue #253 of Amazing Adventures, published in 1974 (actually, Morrison prob does lol). Power levels mean nothing for them, if it makes for a good story/exciting visuals.
PIS/CIS etc are all our inventions. Tierings are all of our inventions. What has happened exactly? Deathstroke has stabbed Flash. Batman has tanked WW's punches. Spiderman has defeated Firelord. A literal brick has KOd Surfer. Hulk has been choked out by a snake. Superman has been KOed by a gas station. Hyperion was KOed by an electrical socket.
My point was, using PG as some kind of low showing for DS, when he regrew his eyes pretty quickly AND then owned her, well....low showings for both sides won't be a good way to go.
Struggling huh? He shrugs off combined blasts from them twice and killed several of them. He casually disintegrated Ultraman who only got his lip bloody. That's better performance than Odin did against Jane Thor or Galactus does against Thor.
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