I feel like they almost made Superman too strong. I'm of the opinion that he shouldn't be that far above Diana and definitely not that far above Steppenwolf. If they keep this up, it's going to be difficult to make him interesting in following movies.
So he's arrogant, foolish, and isn't tactical or ruthless at all. He isn't a killer so he doesn't resort to I am going to kill this guy right out of the gate. Underestimating your opponent makes him an incredibly naive combatant. Glad you admit it.
Same applies to the Justice League. WW clearly said it after being attacked even. Double standards. Gross.
So on one hand if Superman doesn't want to fight and he loses it doesn't count but if the League doesn't want to fight and loses its because he's too strong. He is stronger than all of them. The point is they didn't tactically try to decimate him and she didn't use her sword,etc.
The rest of the team is a joke save Batman with prep and can't take down Superman anyways. Weak team.
I am saying what you're claiming never happened. He didn't beat the villain he just hit him. Steppenwolf wasn't seriously damaged and continued fighting.
Parademons hurt him more. The team worked him over. Superman didn't super speed him into submission despite the strength and speed advantage.
You use double standards I exposed and your claims never occur once in the film. You're a biased fanboy claiming Superman uses super speed to never get touched until his opponent is beaten into the dirt. It's in your imagination.
He isn't she wasn't trying to kill him. If she whipped out the sword and went for broke it would have been entirely different IMO but as it stands he's stronger and more durable than she is so she needs to use her weaponry.
Superman used superspeed against Steppenwolf. Did he defeat him ? His point was that if someone is claiming Superman uses superspeed for the entire duration of their fight (he's never done this) then it's fair game to for someone to claim Vision uses intangibility the entire fight. You being unable to detect a point is why you're so inept in a debate and why you're routinely mocked.
Only Flash can evade his hits, but can’t harm him back.
An Avengers team up probably has a good shot though. Better than The JL who were useless against him. Thor can probably tag him with Lightning, and Vision obviously has some great tools to fight him even 1 on 1.
Yeah you did, you implied Superman beats them casually, why? Because he beat up phucking Steppenwolf and threw some punches at a noob Flash. NONE of the leaguers bar Superman are on the Avengers big hitters level and he has to fight THREE of them here, one wielding the mind stone.
That's still not proof. When he actually punches someone 100's or 1000's of punches in a moment and is show to be equally as impactful as one big haymaker come back to me. Your claims he would essentially just speedblitz everyone to ko are fantasies, his speed certainly helps but against guys as durable as Hulk and Thor it isn't going to make a huge difference.
Superman beating Thor or Hulk 1v1 is not a universally shared opinion, even if he could he isn't beating them both at the same time. Add in Vision who may even be capable of taking out Clark by himself and it's a heavy defeat. Borderline stomp.
Lmaoing at people thinking speed doesn't win fights. Watch a ****ing boxing match some time. Just a slight difference in speed lets guys like Mayweather dance around their opponents. This isn't the comics were slow bricks are allowed to hit heralds so their fanboys don't bombard the writers with autistic screeches.
The fact of the matter is that Thor and Hulk have no feats that suggest they could even react to someone that fast, never mind keep up. Add that Superman outclasses them in strength and durability and it's an easy win for him. And finally punches at super speed would actually be more powerful due to the way kinetic energy works - K.E. = 1/2 mv2.
The team saved the planet not him. He helped but he can't just beat the villain with his speed as you claim. His strength didn't even injure him significantly. You can't run from reality.
He can still move his head with his superior speed. He didn't. He also didn't dodge the lasso. Just stop.
Steppenwolf wasn't beaten but by this ten count a Knian laser defeated Superman. Watch you avoid the ten count here. I would also like to rewatch it because I bet you're lying.
Mayweather has great skill as well as speed. He also knows how to technically fight whereas Superman just has physical edges. You're ignoring facts and trying to insert your opinion when it's painfully obvious you're upset.
Batman has hit Superman (he's a human), Aquaman has (he isn't fast), WW, etc.
Superman isn't more powerful than Thor is or is he as strong as the Hulk. Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets. Superman also holds back and we have seen batman withstand his assault. Superman gets the brakes beaten off himself.
Superman easily destroys Thor and Hulk 1 v 1. Not really up for debate. It took Hulk 10 seconds to chase after a hobbled Black Widow and he knocked her out of the way and didn't even cause any damage.
I love Thor but in the movies he has not portrayed anywhere near the speed/power Superman has and Thor beat Hulk in Ragnarok.
I agree with the speed comment, but Thor still have the better damage output(power) feats.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Speed is only 1 thing that can win fights. There's also reach/range, power, weight but most important: skill. Mayweather is fast but he doesn't win his fights mostly on speed, it's skill.
Psycho doesn't know how to break down quotes let alone break down the nuances of boxing. He thinks the quicker guy always wins. I believe his mother still ties his own shoelaces. I bet he just caught a flea and is eating it smiling somewhere.
Superman being fast doesn't mean he will be invulnerable to Thor's Lightning or Vision's laser beams!
Any of the above could result in serious injuries for Superman
Also, what happens when a superfast object loses stability? Superman can run fast the entire match, a single blow would result fatal considering the velocity at which he would be moving...
Like QS in X-Men would Just blitz all the other X-Men despite Wolverine’s skill or Colossus’s strength and Cyclops range. If the speed difference is too large it can essentially become a non-fight.
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