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FrothByte
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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Although it's unexpected.

Justice League did better than Avangers 2.

Avangers 2 was a "failure" for marvel.

Not that the movie itself it's a failure/bad but that IT WAS WAY BELOW WHAT WAS EXPECTED.

Age of Ultron was bad in comparsion to it's first movie!

In contrast Justice League was an unexpected success for DC.

The movie is MAGNIFICENT in comparison to the other Failures of DCEU!

So having said that, Age of Ultron is terrible whilst JL is great in their own Universes.

Now yes, JL had it's bad sides but overall it was a great movie considering DCEU's standards!

I would definetly put JL above Age of Ultron.

Not good enough to go against the big MCU's success that's for sure.

Err... that's not how you measure a movie's success. Basically what you're saying is that JL is better than BvS but Avengers 2 is worse than Avengers 1.

That does not automatically mean that JL is better than Avengers 2.

I mean, AoU has better scores than JL for pretty much any metric out there, from Rottentomatoes to Metacritic to opening BO numbers.

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Err... that's not how you measure a movie's success. Basically what you're saying is that JL is better than BvS but Avengers 2 is worse than Avengers 1.

That does not automatically mean that JL is better than Avengers 2.

Or another way.

Just because JL(punched in the face) is better than BvS(beat to death) and Avengers 2(Dodge Viper) is worse than Avengers 1(1,000,000 dollars) doesn't mean that being punched in the face is better than a Dodge Viper.

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Originally posted by abhilegend

Are you seriously suggesting that the size of the lightning suggests what's powerful?

Just because it was lightning doesn't mean Thor can do it.

When Thor can beat villains in his own movie, maybe you should start suggesting he can beat a team villain.

He only shattered the crystals. How's Aether more powerful than mother boxes?

For Thor it definitely does based on Ragnarok and we saw what power minor strikes of his can do.

No, Thor will do far better because he has actual feats that are far superior.

He shattered the Aether, a random unquantifiable feat that resulted in a large explosion due to the separation. Sound familiar? Like Zeus and the Motherboxes except far more powerful. The Aether is Universal in power, infinitely superior to the Motherboxes.

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Originally posted by Estacado
JL wasnt a bad movie at all it was certainly better then Age Of Ultron...

**** no it wasn't better than Age of Ultron. It was better than Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
How would you rate it in comparison to the first Avengers movie?

Better than BvS

Watched it twice. Prolly give somewhere just below a 7.

A1 is miles ahead. Top 5 for me in mcu.

AoU was not as good as A1, but it was certainly better than JL. Easily..

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's harsh.

The movie wasn't bad.

I didn't say it was bad but making under 100 million with the enormous budget and buildup shows it was clearly rejected. If you notice even the most fanatical DC fans don't say this film was great. No one says it was great because it wasn't.

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Nov 20th, 2017 08:48 PM

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To that I agree. All things considered, the fact that it got trashed by a large majority of reviews and it probably will not surpass a billion worldwide(or at least have trouble reaching), it is a huge dissapointment considering it's DCEU's version of Avengers.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Did better than Avengers 2 in what way?

I already said why.

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Originally posted by KingD19
What kind of idiocy is that? I'm sorry man but that's just dumb.

Even if AoU was lower than what Marvel usually prides itself on, it was still one of the biggest sellers of the year and biggest movies of it's kind, period. It had a great plot, great action, great characters with fleshed out histories and motivations, etc...

Justice League literally slapped a bunch of people on a movie and rushed it to the end so Superman could come back. And just how AoU was lower than Marvel wanted, but still amazing. JL was better than DC wanted, but is still not great.

Dumb!? Bahahahaha. Lol if YOU SAY SO!!!

Big seller because everyone wanted to see the MASS SUCCESS Avangers 1 sequel! Doesn't mean the movie was a good one! Just because a movie makes a lot of money doesn' t make it a good movie dude!

It was a sloppy movie! It was a mediocre thing not worthy of being an Avangers sequel. It wasn't a proper movie! IT'S AVANGERS! It was supposed to be better than other MCU movies! It wasn't!

Whether you like it or not Justice League was a great movie compared to it's predecessors!

That's why it's better than AoU! AoU was a bad movie!

Justice League besides being founded on TERREBLE MOVIES (BvS, MoS, etc) manage to give a good film! That's why i put it on top of AoU which is quite the opposite!!!

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Opinions vary but the obvious rejection here is Justice League. It didn't make 100 million and has glaring flaws. The best I hear is good at times but bad at times. It's mediocre while Avengers 2 to me wasn't as great as Avengers 1 but still well above mediocrity which is the dceu save WW.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Err... that's not how you measure a movie's success. Basically what you're saying is that JL is better than BvS but Avengers 2 is worse than Avengers 1.

That does not automatically mean that JL is better than Avengers 2.

I mean, AoU has better scores than JL for pretty much any metric out there, from Rottentomatoes to Metacritic to opening BO numbers.

I agree.

If we compare directly AoU with JL according to the Critics.

I agree Marvel AoU is a better film overall, and the critics do to

But if we compare the two movies BASED on the audiences and the overall MCU/DCEU universe, JL is above.

Even the Rotten Tomatoes Audiences agree"

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/justice_league_2017/

Audience score: 85

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avengers_age_of_ultron

Audience score: 83

IMDb

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395427/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (7.4 rating based on audience)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395427/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (7.5 rating based on audience)

As you can see, the audiences liked JL better.

I'll tell you why:

Because JL is a jewel compared to the other shitty DCEU movies whilst AOU is horrific compared to the MCU predecesssors.

It's clear!

If you watch a good movie, and then you go and watch it's sequel you are expecting for the movie to be better or atleast as good as the previous one!

So your expectations are high! So in that aspect, if the movie fails to be as good or better than the previous one it DISAPPOINTS.

On the other hand, if the previous movies are shitty, and then you go and watch something different, your expectations were exceeded.

It's basic psychology!

I would rather go an see JL again than go and see AoU! Even after me being a Marvel Fan!

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Opinions vary but the obvious rejection here is Justice League. It didn't make 100 million and has glaring flaws. The best I hear is good at times but bad at times. It's mediocre while Avengers 2 to me wasn't as great as Avengers 1 but still well above mediocrity which is the dceu save WW.

Nahh JL was a good movie man.

Look at Man of Steel or BVS! Those were horrendous films!

Let's admit DCEU finally got something right!

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Nov 20th, 2017 09:04 PM

Josh_Alexander
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JL satisfied more than AoU!

Maybe that's how we should put it.

Not that it's a better film over all, but it satisfied the Audiences more than AoU.

AoU was a disappointment, whilst no one expected JL to be that good.

From the trailers and previous movies I was like....This movie is gonna be a waste of time and money!

But lets admit, we did laugh when Flash felt over WW!

DC finally got a decent movie.

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Nov 20th, 2017 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
To that I agree. All things considered, the fact that it got trashed by a large majority of reviews and it probably will not surpass a billion worldwide(or at least have trouble reaching), it is a huge dissapointment considering it's DCEU's version of Avengers.

I disagree.

It wasn't a "good counterpart of Avangers"

But it was quite better than we anticipated. It was a decent movie.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Nahh JL was a good movie man.

Look at Man of Steel or BVS! Those were horrendous films!

Let's admit DCEU finally got something right!

Iyo and it was ok at best. It wasn't great. It was better than Batman v. Superman, Man of Steel, and Suicide Squad. WW was done right as well. That's the best dceu film though this had better action than WW.

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FrothByte
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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I agree.

If we compare directly AoU with JL according to the Critics.

I agree Marvel AoU is a better film overall, and the critics do to

But if we compare the two movies BASED on the audiences and the overall MCU/DCEU universe, JL is above.

Even the Rotten Tomatoes Audiences agree"

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/justice_league_2017/

Audience score: 85

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avengers_age_of_ultron

Audience score: 83

IMDb

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395427/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (7.4 rating based on audience)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395427/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (7.5 rating based on audience)

As you can see, the audiences liked JL better.

I'll tell you why:

Because JL is a jewel compared to the other shitty DCEU movies whilst AOU is horrific compared to the MCU predecesssors.

It's clear!

If you watch a good movie, and then you go and watch it's sequel you are expecting for the movie to be better or atleast as good as the previous one!

So your expectations are high! So in that aspect, if the movie fails to be as good or better than the previous one it DISAPPOINTS.

On the other hand, if the previous movies are shitty, and then you go and watch something different, your expectations were exceeded.

It's basic psychology!

I would rather go an see JL again than go and see AoU! Even after me being a Marvel Fan!

JL has been out for all of 4 days. Do you really think those audience scores are accurate?

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Josh_Alexander
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Originally posted by FrothByte
JL has been out for all of 4 days. Do you really think those audience scores are accurate?

They may change. But until now JL is making a better film for the audiences.

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If the general audience likes it so much, why is it opening at below 100 million?

Nov 20th, 2017 09:16 PM

quanchi112
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The world has rejected the Justice league. Less than a 100 million is embarrassing considering the buildup and the budget. Cringe worthy.

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Josh_Alexander
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Originally posted by Silent Master
If the general audience likes it so much, why is it opening at below 100 million?

Perhaps because it's predecessors were so terrible people thought it was a waste of time.

I wasn't planning to go an see it, but then my friends told me how good was it, so i said, "well lets go and see if DCEU finally did something good".

To my surprise it was better than expected. That you have to admit.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
The world has rejected the Justice league. Less than a 100 million is embarrassing considering the buildup and the budget. Cringe worthy.

Lets wait and see.

News are spreading of it being a good movie.

It's too soon to call it an economic failure.

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