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But yea it's strange when people compete over how dangerous/shitty/violent their cities are

IIRC the US is the murder capital of the industrialized world by far... but it's far from something I'm proud of. If we could stop having 600 murders a year in Chicago I think that would be nice.

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This....this video is super incredibly awkward. oi!

Oh shit, that's Sam Hyde, the Ted X talk troll.


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This....this video is super incredibly awkward. oi!

Oh shit, that's Sam Hyde, the Ted X talk troll.
That's him. He's actually a comedian.

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I also have an issue with his hole analogy. The problem is nobody alive currently dug those holes, and nobody alive currently was actually put in those holes.

And especially if we're going to talk about native americans and use the hole analogy...they NA's sure as hell did love putting each other in holes.


Which is why I‘m attributing the blame to the Institution of the us government, which indeed has a responsibility to ,, pull people out of the holes they‘ve dug.

And yes, Native Americans, raised in a terrible situation the government has put them in, have struggled to better their situations. That doesn’t mean the government shouldn’t be taking responsibility for a situation they created but never fixed.

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The problem with large scale fixes like the one's you're implying, is it results in small scale wrongs to individuals.

You can't, for example, have a quota on women, without denying that same spot to someone else (A man, in this case.)

Or to go with the box analogy, someone just might end up behind a kid standing up on a chair as he's trying to watch a wrestling show, with his goddamned mom standing right next to him, the *****. mad

Not a good evening.

But yeah, point is people aren't just groups, and imo it's not right to wrong someone to fix group wrongs. Even if it only affects a single person from being shut out..

I am not arguing for the second panel, I‘m arguing for the third panel where there‘s no reason to give someone boxes.

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Also, could someone explain what affirmative action is exactly? I‘ve opposed it under the impression it forces colleges to accept a minimum of black kids regardless of if there‘s more deserving white kids.

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Affirmative Action is a set of policies that give private businesses tax incentives for contracting or hiring people from historically oppressed groups.

For example, if there are two equally-qualified candidates for an open position, and one of them is say, an ethnic minority, the government may offer the employer a modest tax break to hire the minority candidate.

The policy aims to override the prejudices of employers who have historically disenfranchised some groups from gainful employment by appealing to their pocketbook.

Unless a business is contracting with the federal government, it is completely voluntary policy. The government is not forcing employers to hire minorities or unqualified people.


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Affirmative Action is a set of policies that give private businesses tax incentives for contracting or hiring people from historically oppressed groups.

For example, if there are two equally-qualified candidates for an open position, and one of them is say, an ethnic minority, the government may offer the employer a modest tax break to hire the minority candidate.

The policy aims to override the prejudices of employers who have historically disenfranchised some groups from gainful employment by appealing to their pocketbook.

Unless a business is contracting with the federal government, it is completely voluntary policy. The government is not forcing employers to hire minorities or unqualified people.

Shouldn't the tiebreaker be class based, not race based?

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Originally posted by Afro Cheese
But yea it's strange when people compete over how dangerous/shitty/violent their cities are

IIRC the US is the murder capital of the industrialized world by far... but it's far from something I'm proud of. If we could stop having 600 murders a year in Chicago I think that would be nice.


It's not strange really because it's interesting, London, for example, has seen the murder rate drop from around 300 a year to 100 a year in the last 30 years due to gentrification. South America and South African (where I visit regularly) with always be more dangerous than most other industrialised places. Countries where foreigners are rarely seen like Somalia and Nigeria (where I lived for a while are a particular danger for non-natives). Americans like to make out they are tough because they have a lot of loonies and no gun control. Yes, it makes America dangerous anyone can get a gun on any street corner. But most Americans don't have a passport and when they are involved in military conflicts outnumber and outmatch the opponents so the risk is minimised (this is true for Britain in military conflicts also). So the point I am making still stands being in a war zone with air support and a military machine, isn't necessarily a choice for everyone in Education and doesn't necessarily make you Rambo either. I have some lovely Americans working for me, some ex-military, it doesn't mean I don't tell them I think western military interference from the US and Europe isn't the biggest problem to stability, it created most of the problems we face now. And as to how this started, I think someone accused people posting against the military of being armchair warriors, I find it funny when people who have either had a platoon behind them or never visited dangerous places, try and belittle those who live in them and try to show every day not every westerner is a bigoted fool and do so at their own risk.


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Which is why I‘m attributing the blame to the Institution of the us government, which indeed has a responsibility to ,, pull people out of the holes they‘ve dug.

And yes, Native Americans, raised in a terrible situation the government has put them in, have struggled to better their situations. That doesn’t mean the government shouldn’t be taking responsibility for a situation they created but never fixed.


It doesn't mean our government uses race an excuse to pass over others though in order to fix it lol. Not up for debate, racism doesn't defeat racism.

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Shouldn't the tiebreaker be class based, not race based?


Then whining about slavery and shit wouldn't work as much.


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It's not strange really because it's interesting, London, for example, has seen the murder rate drop from around 300 a year to 100 a year in the last 30 years due to gentrification. South America and South African (where I visit regularly) with always be more dangerous than most other industrialised places. Countries where foreigners are rarely seen like Somalia and Nigeria (where I lived for a while are a particular danger for non-natives). Americans like to make out they are tough because they have a lot of loonies and no gun control. Yes, it makes America dangerous anyone can get a gun on any street corner. But most Americans don't have a passport and when they are involved in military conflicts outnumber and outmatch the opponents so the risk is minimised (this is true for Britain in military conflicts also). So the point I am making still stands being in a war zone with air support and a military machine, isn't necessarily a choice for everyone in Education and doesn't necessarily make you Rambo either. I have some lovely Americans working for me, some ex-military, it doesn't mean I don't tell them I think western military interference from the US and Europe isn't the biggest problem to stability, it created most of the problems we face now. And as to how this started, I think someone accused people posting against the military of being armchair warriors, I find it funny when people who have either had a platoon behind them or never visited dangerous places, try and belittle those who live in them and try to show every day not every westerner is a bigoted fool and do so at their own risk.


That's all well and good, I just want to make sure you're crystal clear about one thing here: there is nothing tougher or more noble about having more knife attacks than gun attacks. And no Steve, you aren't some military bad ass because you challenge people to go meet up in the Sudan or whatever silly shit you spew. When you did that you sounded *exactly* like a keyboard warrior.


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That's all well and good, I just want to make sure you're crystal clear about one thing here: there is nothing tougher or more noble about having more knife attacks than gun attacks. And no Steve, you aren't some military bad ass because you challenge people to go meet up in the Sudan or whatever silly shit you spew. When you did that you sounded *exactly* like a keyboard warrior.
Only to you boy and people like you, as I say my offer is open. Come meet me in Africa, I'm game, I'll show you the real world off a keyboard. No keyboard warrior here, just a solid offer. Come and tell Muslims what you think of them in their country, you're brave. Offer is open to any of you, give me your emails and I'll sort it out. You will have to pay for your flights and I suggest you get insurance, most Americans I know pretend to be Canadians in places like the Sudan btw and most of them are quite tough guys. Just a thought.


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Only to you boy and people like you, as I say my offer is open. Come meet me in Africa, I'm game, I'll show you the real world off a keyboard. No keyboard warrior here, just a solid offer. Come and tell Muslims what you think of them in their country, you're brave. Offer is open to any of you, give me your emails and I'll sort it out. You will have to pay for your flights and I suggest you get insurance, most Americans I know pretend to be Canadians in places like the Sudan btw and most of them are quite tough guys. Just a thought.


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Only to you boy and people like you, as I say my offer is open. Come meet me in Africa, I'm game, I'll show you the real world off a keyboard. No keyboard warrior here, just a solid offer. Come and tell Muslims what you think of them in their country, you're brave. Offer is open to any of you, give me your emails and I'll sort it out. You will have to pay for your flights and I suggest you get insurance, most Americans I know pretend to be Canadians in places like the Sudan btw and most of them are quite tough guys. Just a thought.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Only to you boy and people like you, as I say my offer is open. Come meet me in Africa, I'm game, I'll show you the real world off a keyboard. No keyboard warrior here, just a solid offer. Come and tell Muslims what you think of them in their country, you're brave. Offer is open to any of you, give me your emails and I'll sort it out. You will have to pay for your flights and I suggest you get insurance, most Americans I know pretend to be Canadians in places like the Sudan btw and most of them are quite tough guys. Just a thought.


You're trying way too hard lol. This is what a keyboard warrior does.


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Only to you boy and people like you, as I say my offer is open. Come meet me in Africa, I'm game, I'll show you the real world off a keyboard. No keyboard warrior here, just a solid offer. Come and tell Muslims what you think of them in their country, you're brave. Offer is open to any of you, give me your emails and I'll sort it out. You will have to pay for your flights and I suggest you get insurance, most Americans I know pretend to be Canadians in places like the Sudan btw and most of them are quite tough guys. Just a thought.



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