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Are these DC characters more powerful than Silver Surfer?
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LordofBrooklyn
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Also Marvel is not a HH.


Are you seriously saying Captain Marvel isn't a high herald?


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Marvel is very clearly not a high herald.

He suits mid just fine.


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Name one trans tier character he has beaten then. Heck, tell us about one high herald he's beaten.


Has current Supes beaten a High Herald or Trans tier since coming back to full power?


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Marvel is very clearly not a high herald.

He suits mid just fine.


What Mid Herald has comparable feats to Marvel?


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All of them.


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most people agree none of the guys are more powerful than the surfer. why is it the same two posters continuously trolling for superman


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most people agree none of the guys are more powerful than the surfer. why is it the same two posters continuously trolling for superman
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most people agree none of the guys are more powerful than the surfer. why is it the same two posters continuously trolling for superman


The canon CLEARLY says otherwise.

If you READ any of it instead of sniping out of ignorance you would know otherwise.


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No, they were about to die and pulled a hail Mary at the end to startle Galactus and others.

Surfer has failed to even make Galactus flinch on nearly a dozen instances. In fact he has been beaten or pretty much ignored by any skyfather level being he encounters.


It's the quality of his fights. Not quantity.


Name one instance this decade and the last one then. Under his own power.

There u go again trying to lead me into one of your silly rabbit holes. Answering with more questions and demands, mischaracterizations, propaganda statements, etc... Going off into a tangent is your middle name.

U asked if he can go out of his weight class solely on his own power...

Ignore the scans if u want. It ain't going away by wishing they never happened.


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Marvel is very clearly not a high herald.

He suits mid just fine.
Why? Especially since Surfer is there.

Superman/Thor obviously punch up, but Surfer never does unless he has literal plot devices at hand [like the crunch]. He gets shitstomped anytime he encounters Thanos, for example. Hell, some of the time he can't even budge Thanos.


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All of them.


Show them performing against the following.

1.Superman
2.Wonder Woman
3.Black Adam
4.Neron

As necessary you can show comparable examples of mid-heralds in Marvel performing against characters on par with the aforementioned DC ones.


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There u go again trying to lead me into one of your silly rabbit holes. Answering with more questions and demands, mischaracterizations, propaganda statements, etc... Going off into a tangent is your middle name.

U asked if he can go out of his weight class solely on his own power...

Ignore the scans if u want. It ain't going away by wishing they never happened.

I asked a very simple question. Name one trans tier/high herald he has beaten cleanly.


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I asked a very simple question. Name one trans tier/high herald he has beaten cleanly.

Before we go any further. Did he punch out of his weight class under his own power?

Take care of that first then we can proceed.


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If Billy is not high herald, then neither is Surfer

Lol at double standard

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Before we go any further. Did he punch out of his weight class under his own power?

Take care of that first then we can proceed.

On his own against Galactus and others? No. They affected them with a hail Mary.


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Re: Are the guys more powerful than Silver Surfer (DC)

Superman, yes
Ultraman, yes
Bizzaro, no
Mr. Majestic, yes
Captain Marvel, yes
Orion, yes
Lobo , no


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On his own against Galactus and others? No. They affected them with a hail Mary.

Carry on with that hate.


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Surely people will point out characters Surfer has beaten that are, well, let's start VERY LOW and says trans, under his own power with no convenient plot devices?

I mean, for one who is considered one of the 3 best representatives of the high-herald tier [alongside Superman and Thor], surely he has PLENTY of them, am I right?


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@Phil, Surfer hasn't done shit the last 20 years tho.


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@Phil, Surfer hasn't done shit the last 20 years tho.
Sure [except vs Cable/BRB], but when has he done anything to place him as a reference point on the same level as Superman and Thor? Thanos might as well tattoo a tramp stamp on his back, Odinson made him his b*tch boy in most of their confrontations, Loki has matched him etc. Or Hal? Or Black Adam [mid-herald..]?

It's one of the reasons most of his threads devolve into kindergarten "he created a black hole" like that means anything for characters above rookie GLs. Because in terms of actual demonstrable showings against other characters, especially against those that aren't shit-tier, he comes lacking. I wouldn't bet on him against a Thanos-level opponent to save my life, ever. He crumbles anytime he comes anywhere near that, unless he has a plot device to save him. Superman? Thor? Hal? You bet I would.

Inb4 Superman fan hating on Surfer, but as a Thor fan, you know I'm not.


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