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Those born here can stay, deport the illegal parents though.


And if the kids are say underage?


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And if the kids are say underage?


That's up to the parents. They can decide to bring the kids with them back to Mexico or make other arrangements.


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Ah, clever.


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Nah, we won't be kicking out anyone born here. Were there any other ideas you wanna run by me?


Birthright citizenship has no place in a merit-based system. So again, if a merit-based system is good enough for new citizens, then surely it is good enough for existing citizens too, right? Why or why not?


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Surtur's only achievement in life is being American...


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Surtur's only achievement in life is being American...


The point system is ridiculous.

If a candidate is 3640, with a U.S. Bachelor's degree, is fluent in English, and has a job offer with a salary <77,900 but >103,900, he does not qualify for citizenship.

In order to earn enough points, he would need a Nobel Prize, an Olympic Medal, or plan to invest a minimum of 1.35-million in a new commercial enterprise.

A smart person would not want to implement a policy that would disqualify himself if he had to live under it.

Immigrants: Be educated and wealthy. Born citizens: Be birthed from an American vagina.

Rules for thee, but not for me, indeed.


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It would. Take the quiz, and see for yourself: Find Out If President Trump Would Let You Immigrate to America

If this policy was in place 100 years ago, no Irish would be granted U.S. citizenship, and Surtur would not be here, acting like an accident of birth makes him more deserving of citizenship than other people.


Ha, I didn't make it. I'd need a job offer of over 77,900.

But then, it's not like I was likely to get in on your previous system anyway.


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And I don't remember every single view of every smug pseudo intellectual on this forum lol.


Did you seriously try to call other people smug? laughing


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It is always fun to watch Leftists like Adam and Robbie LIE about Immigration Issues.


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Trump's point system may sort of make sense in concept but it's cancerous in its implementation, the guy ranks being 26-30 and ranking 160k about the same as having a nobel prize, and a bachelors from Oxford less than a bachelors from ITT Tech. laughing

I will quality when I graduate.


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Birthright citizenship has no place in a merit-based system. So again, if a merit-based system is good enough for new citizens, then surely it is good enough for existing citizens too, right? Why or why not?


We can apply it to everything if you want. This means tests in order to see who gets to vote, etc.

You down with that?


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We can apply it to everything if you want. This means tests in order to see who gets to vote, etc.

You down with that?


Would you support IQ tests for that?


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Would you support IQ tests for that?


Sure go for it. Then stuff like Affirmative Action can go.

EDIT: Well, actually, I'd wanna look into it more. How reliable are IQ tests in showing us intelligence? Can someone be intelligent and not do well? But I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of test.


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Sure go for it. Then stuff like Affirmative Action can go.

EDIT: Well, actually, I'd wanna look into it more. How reliable are IQ tests in showing us intelligence? Can someone be intelligent and not do well? But I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of test.


IQ tests are very accurate on the aggregate but it's possible for individuals to do poorly for specific reasons like learning disabilities. But we could put measures in place to correct for that.


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IQ tests are very accurate on the aggregate but it's possible for individuals to do poorly for specific reasons like learning disabilities. But we could put measures in place to correct for that.


I would say go for it, but I also think some people would be opposed to it because some people have better opportunities for education than others.

Public schools in poor neighborhoods here are crappy.


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I think there are PR / optical / slippery slope issues with using testing for immigration and rights tbh and something like employment + education + pedigree acts as a decent figure.

Trump's points system is weird and arbitrary though, under it Mark Zuckerberg were he born in another country wouldn't qualify [before he won some major international award].


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I think there are PR / optical / slippery slope issues with using testing for immigration and rights tbh and something like employment + education + pedigree acts as a decent figure.

Trump's points system is weird and arbitrary though, under it Mark Zuckerberg were he born in another country wouldn't qualify [before he won some major international award].


What about tests like the SAT's? Or ACT's? I only took the latter.


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What about tests like the SAT's? Or ACT's? I only took the latter.


They're reasonably predictive but again, there are loopholes/case by case issues and the public would never accept it.


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We can apply it to everything if you want. This means tests in order to see who gets to vote, etc.

You down with that?


If we implement a merit-based citizenship system, you will not need tests to qualify to vote, because the only people left will be educated and wealthy. And therein lies the problem with this system: society needs people of all education levels and skill sets in order to function. If everyone is wealthy, then there is no one to pick fruit, collect garbage, or clean toilets. Those are all essential things that need to be done. That is why it is so preposterous for people to turn up their noses at the notion that these "menial" jobs should not be paid a living wage. If people do not do those jobs, civilization comes to a screeching halt.


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Surt: "only people the goverment deem worthy of voting should vote."

If the government chooses who votes, then what's the point of voting?

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