Cosmetic or not, they're still transformations that increases their power several times over.
But yeah, where Saiyans are concerned the only full-on physical "transformations" I can think of(regardless of canonicity) are:
-Oozaru: it's a giant monkey, ffs.
-Broly's LSSJ: it literally bursts out from underneath his base form.
-SSJ4: it's look is akin to a base Saiyan/Oozaru hybrid... With pink fur.
*USSJ and SSJ3 are pretty extreme physical changes as well, but definitely not in the same vein as the above. Imo.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 04:40 AM
I *do* wonder if an overabundance of S Cells(fused with divine ki, perhaps..?) is why Black's ki progressively increased in battle, with seemingly no limit..?
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Well producer of DBS in interview said Black was the strongest outside of Beerus... he flat out states that Black went on to have his own unique evolution/power-up thanks to Zamasus natural god ki in saiyan body and that's why he became the strongest "mortal" and so effective.
Last edited by Inedian on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 05:58 PM
Makes sense. I mean, Goku and Vegeta really had no answer for Black's infinite ki, or future Zamasu's immortality... They came the closest to absolute victory that anyone has in the franchise, imo(especially after merging with the universe) -- the Z Fighters had absolutely NO way to win on their own.
It literally required THE most powerful being in the multiverse to directly intervene and expunge that entire universe/timeline from existence, in order to prevail.
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Well, that brings up another question; what exactly is "ki"? I've heard it argued for that it's simply physical energy, but if that were the case, Goku and Goku Black would have identical ki, because their bodies are identical.
What role does the spirit play in ki? Is it like Naruto, where the power source is the result of fusing mental and physical energy?
Black was an anomaly. Even though Zamasu had the Super Dragon replace his body with Goku's, his own divine ki was somehow merged with the physical traits of Goku -- IOW, Black was basically Zamasu with a Goku wrapper... And somehow this merger of Saiyan and divine power created a vessel(ie. Black) whose ki could perpetually increase during battle, with [seemingly] no limit.
While Goku's powers work in a similar way(ie. he gets stronger in the heat of battle and receives zenkais to an extent), his body/power is still typically portrayed with a distinct limit. Black's wasn't... And it seems like the divine ki he was infused with is the reason why. /shrug
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Last edited by Galan007 on Dec 6th, 2017 at 04:20 PM
If only Vegeta wasn't stuck with the 80's plastic suit color scheme.
Unlike Goku, for some reason Vegeta lost his tail when he reverted from SSJ4.
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With how quick Caulifla and Cabba attained SSJ2, the U6 saiyans might have more S-cells, but Trunks and Goten attained regular SSJ just as absurdly, so who knows.
Caulifla, for example, was able to reach SSJ after a few seconds of focusing, just because Cabba told her it felt like a 'tingly feeling' in her back, lol(she then ascended to SSJ2 in much the same manner)... She was also ridiculously powerful for a n00b SSJ/SSJ2. And Kale's LSSJ transformation came almost as easily to her as well -- she just had to have an emotional catalyst along with the 'tingly feeling' the first few times she transformed.
Flip side, the boys were much younger when they went SSJ, and were also ridiculously powerful all things considered. Difference is: Goten and Trunks each reached SSJ naturally -- they didn't have any formal training from the adult Saiyans to teach them how to reach SSJ easier(at least Kale/Caulifa had that, minimal at is was.) /shrug
So if S-Cells = SSJ *potential*, it's damn hard to figure out who the better prodigies are between the boys and the girls. However, if S-Cells = SSJ *power*, then the girls are far superior.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Dec 10th, 2017 at 01:45 AM
So a Saiyan's S-Cell count can be increased by any/all of the following:
1.) Being raised in a calm/hospitable environment.
2.) Having a gentle heart.
3.) Having a high battle power.
IOW, if the current Saiyans stay pure hearted and continue training, they can perpetually boost their S-Cell count, which will increase their overall SSJ potential by proxy(ie. they essentially do not have a limit/cap to their powers.)
Interesting...
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Last edited by Galan007 on Dec 13th, 2017 at 01:01 AM
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