You can identify as whatever you want. Just don't expect people to identify you as anything beyond how you physically present yourself.
More specifically - because I dislike clever little sayings that are ambiguous but don't actually saying anything specific - I will not identify you as Wolfkin if you are not in full Furry getup. I will just call your sir/he/him or ma'am/she/her.
I'm okay with getting identify-creative. And I have enough respect for people around me to refer to people the way they prefer if I think they provide something good or valuable to me or the people I care about (such as friendship or intellectual conversation).
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By liberal you mean leftist, because actual liberalism and socialism are mutually exclusive ideologies.
Despite the way people make use of the term, liberalism is not synonymous left-wing.
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Haha silly rabbit with your social media meaningless "leftisit" hashtag. In the UK liberal is a distinct political group that even had a liberal party the left wing border of it and the right wing border of Labour a socialist party has always had a fluid boundary. But you knew that... right?
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But how do you feel about minors being able to identify however they want not based on Biology, but based on an agenda driven fashion... Which this may or may not be.
Gender: Male Location: The Proud Nation of Kekistan
I'm not using leftist as a pejorative, I'm saying being left-wing doesn't automatically make you a liberal.
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Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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Gender: Male Location: The Proud Nation of Kekistan
My take is that the concept of "gender identity" was a retarded mistake. What we should do is live in a society where people are identified as male or female based on their biology, but are at perfect liberty to act or dress or present themselves in ways that define traditional gender roles.
It's much easier to argue "I'm not going to let you force me to view and refer to your identity a certain way" than it is to say "I'm not going to let you dress, behave, and present yourself how you want to."
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Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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I would doubt any studies have been done however. You are saying you don't see gender/sex being linked inherently to sexuality. So what is the biological purpose of gender?
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These are questions you need to answer, not me.
I feel they are irrelevant to my position of allowing others to identify however they wish. Therefore, they are not appropriate for me to answer. They are non sequitur to my position.
It's like asking me why I lock my door at night when watermelon tastes good. Doesn't make any sense at all.
"You think children can be sexualized by adults if you think they can identify by any gender they choose."
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When we get to unquotable posting... It usually means impasse. Come back when you can show me Gender and Sexuality are not linked, I'm sure lots of credible sources will back this position of yours up... However that is what many are buying into.
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My position?
When did I take that position?
But I do believe you took the positive position:
You get backed to me when you can prove that sexuality and gender are the same (based on each other, whatever...play your word games with someone else).
Find me some scholarly articles for it.
Get back to me when you have a good point.
Address my points, first, however, before you descend down a point that is irrelevant to my position, first. Start there. Then, if you've worked the conversation into something satisfactory, we can start a new thread, which is independent of this thread topic, to discuss your idea of gender and sexuality.
First, start with defining what gender is in the context you are using it. Start there before moving on to anything else.
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From a biological or cultural point of view. Because biologically it is interchangeable with sex. Culturally it can be more fluid. So you are saying Children are free to choose their Gender in either context? And I have been coming in here from both a biological and cultural standpoint as unlike some proponents of "Gender studies". I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.
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