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From a biological or cultural point of view. Because biologically it is interchangeable with sex. Culturally it can be more fluid. So you are saying Children are free to choose their Gender in either context?


Not my problem. You're using the word gender. You define how you're using it. You do not get to ask me to define it. lol


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Not my problem. You're using the word gender. You define how you're using it. You do not get to ask me to define it. lol
See edit. lol


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Gender is binary.


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I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.


Define how you're using the word "sex."

Define how you're using the word "gender."

Start from there and then we can actually have a discussion. If you refuse to even define how you use these words, then a discussion is meaningless.


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Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.


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Define how you're using the word "sex."

Define how you're using the word "gender."

Start from there and then we can actually have a discussion. If you refuse to even define how you use these words, then a discussion is meaningless.


Already defined sex a page ago, natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans.

Although I could define it by Testosterone/Oestrogen concentrations in the blood and a few other methods.

But nowhere could I define it as a media propagated fashion.


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Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.


For once we agree. The world will end!


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Already defined sex a page ago, natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans.


So the next time I go to fill out my forms at a doctor's office, on the section where it asks for sex, I'll put down, "natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans"?

Gotcha.

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Although I could define it by Testosterone/Oestrogen concentrations in the blood and a few other methods.

But nowhere could I define it as a media propagated fashion.


So, in the context that you used the words "sex" and "gender" in the follow post, what are your definitions:



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I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.


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Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.


Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?


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Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?

Oh I'm just asserting that preemptively because it's not all that uncommon for people to support giving children hormones and shit.


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Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?


By implication you when you said, you didn't see age as an issue.

This Gender epidemic like all fashions is prevalent with kids pal, I get this tacitly endorsed, propaganda driven self abuse, is not traditional child abuse, but it is child abuse. I also think that many adults buying into this are possibly mentally ill but that is only my personal opinion.


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Oh I'm just asserting that preemptively because it's not all that uncommon for people to support giving children hormones and shit.


Good, because I've stated, pretty much, the same thing to Surtur, as well. I'm hesitant to allow a kid to let themselves potentially mutilate themselves.


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Identify as what you want, but you do not ever try to dictate others indulge in your fantasy.

And if anyone thinks its okay for children to be transgender, check yourself into an asylum.


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Identify as what you want, but you do not ever try to dictate others indulge in your fantasy.

And if anyone thinks its okay for children to be transgender, check yourself into an asylum.
Wtf, I am in agreement with Surtur also. The world truly is at an end.


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We live in an era now where playing a clip by Jordan Peterson is considered transphobic and compared to *neutrally playing a Hitler speech*.


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Good, because I've stated, pretty much, the same thing to Surtur, as well. I'm hesitant to allow a kid to let themselves potentially mutilate themselves.

Yeah I'm not accusing you of anything.


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We live in an era now where playing a clip by Jordan Peterson is considered transphobic and compared to *neutrally playing a Hitler speech*.
A teacher at a "girls" school in the UK recently got told off for calling the girls in his class "girls" because one thirteen year old identified as a boy. Hang on what was the type of school he was teaching at again? He was suspended and had to write an apology letter to the kid and her family.


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I do have issues with this gender identity epidemic...

Is it just me or is the scale of it backed by very little Science.




Required reading if you're interested in queer politics:


http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018...ng_Straight.htm


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Required reading if you're interested in queer politics:


http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018...ng_Straight.htm


I'm not mate, I don't care how adults describe themselves. But I will read it on your recommendation.


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IDK maybe the SJWs are secret champions of humanity. Maybe they know something we don't, like evil aliens are observing us.

This is the "mad man theory" on a larger scale. We need to convince these evil aliens that every night before we go to sleep we remove our brains from our skulls and soak them in a vat of bath salts for 8 hours. They won't ever dare cross us. We have nuclear bombs and get into hissy fits over who pisses in what bathroom. FEAR US.


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