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Dreampanther
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I watched some of episode one, and yeah, the production value is incredible. It looks phenomenal.

But do any likable and relatable characters ever emerge?


Yes.


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This guy gets it.

"I can say without hesitation that it's a terrific show. Everything from the gorgeous production values to the excellent cast to the mystery-filled story and action-packed ultra-violence is amazing."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...l/#60ee26c16963


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I'm nearing the end now, got 3 eps left. I do like the show overall so far, and it's gotten better as it went, but don't find myself terribly engaged by any of the characters. Like, I really don't care about any of them. It's also very unfocused, shifting its concentration from what topic to the next kind of on a whim.

The show is fun, and worth watching if you're into Sci Fi, but I definitely wouldn't call it terrific, it's promising, though. The premise holds a lot to be explored and I think season 2 will be better. And again, it's gorgeous to look at. The production values are out of this world. Even if the show was bad, it might still be worth watching just for the visuals and imagery.


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I'm nearing the end now, got 3 eps left. I do like the show overall so far, and it's gotten better as it went, but don't find myself terribly engaged by any of the characters. Like, I really don't care about any of them. It's also very unfocused, shifting its concentration from what topic to the next kind of on a whim.

The show is fun, and worth watching if you're into Sci Fi, but I definitely wouldn't call it terrific, it's promising, though. The premise holds a lot to be explored and I think season 2 will be better. And again, it's gorgeous to look at. The production values are out of this world. Even if the show was bad, it might still be worth watching just for the visuals and imagery.


Yeah, I've watched the first 3 episodes and I don't really like it. I wanted to like the show so badly, but the story and characters just aren't engaging to me at all. The production is incredible and it seems like such a rich world with so many interesting possibilities, which is why it's a shame that the story and characters aren't engaging. It has amazing visuals, but it's still not enough to justify the mediocre narrative and total lack of likable characters. I think I'm done.


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Yeah, I've watched the first 3 episodes and I don't really like it. I wanted to like the show so badly, but the story and characters just aren't engaging to me at all. The production is incredible and it seems like such a rich world with so many interesting possibilities, which is why it's a shame that the story and characters aren't engaging. It has amazing visuals, but it's still not enough to justify the mediocre narrative and total lack of likable characters. I think I'm done.
Episode 4 is where it caught me. Try giving it one more episode. This show isn't The Expanse, but its fun.



I Just watched episode 6 and the ending of this one was the first scene that really bothered me. It just wasn't well written. There are a few other obvious plot contrivances that bothered me in previous episodes but I can overlook them.

Other than that, this show is solid. It reminds me of the Deus Ex games in a way. Badass gruff detective (Envoy in this case) piecing together clues in a dark cyberpunk setting. Still not a fan of Lt. Ortego though. She's been annoying since the beginning and hasn't really toned it down.


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only watched first two eps.. not all that good.. will watch the 3rd and maybe 4th ep to see if anything changes


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I got around to finishing this. It got better as it went on. In the beginning it was typical and hinging highly on it's cinematography (which was exceptional all throughout) but it caught me by episode 4 and actually got me to care about the characters and main mystery enough to actually get invested.

Unfortunately, the plot contrivances were pretty glaring. The center mystery and how it unfolded was done pretty well except for what is IMO one of the biggest aspects of a mystery story; the killers motivation made NO fking sense. The twist as to who it was, why he/she was involved with Bancroft and how he/she went about it was well done since it was set up with clues all throughout, but there's no way to really guess it outside of pure luck because the killer had no real driving motive (well, he/she did have motive, but it makes no sense in any way and felt like it was thrown in to create false drama). The worst part is I hear the book did a better job with this part because the killer was a completely different person with an actually sensible motivation. All they had to do was stick closer to the source material. The side mystery concerning Lizzie was more well done and made sense though, so there's that.

Aside from all that, the main characters arc was kind of strange. He went from not giving a shit about anyone to being stereotypically heroic pretty quickly and for no obvious reason. That was weird.

In the end I liked most of the characters and antagonists (and how they all wrapped up), but they fumbled the biggest part of a mystery story so I can't rate it super high. If that was better done it'd probably be a solid 8-8.5 for me but that combined with the mentioned contrivances knock it down to a 6.5. It's enjoyable, but a bit too mindless at times to be a good mystery.

In other news, they already greenlit the second season. I liked this enough to tune in for that so hopefully they do a better job with the mystery.


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I finished this last night. Thought it was solid overall, but unnecessarily complicated in parts.

One thing I am a bit concerned about for the future is the situation with casting. Based on how S1 ends, I don't know how many of these people we'll be getting back, and the performances were among the stronger parts of the show IMO.


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Loved all the characters so far
A few of the episodes stalled like when they got Kovacs stuck into that virch torture chamber, but I genuinely like these characters and I wanna check out the books now


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I finished this last night. Thought it was solid overall, but unnecessarily complicated in parts.

One thing I am a bit concerned about for the future is the situation with casting. Based on how S1 ends, I don't know how many of these people we'll be getting back, and the performances were among the stronger parts of the show IMO.
From what I heard, the second book has no returning characters other than the central character [SPOILER - highlight to read]: who doesn't even have the same sleeve so he's going to be recasted anyways.


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Dreampanther
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Altered Carbon renewed for Season 2. Anthony Mackie cast as the new Takeshi Kovacs.

https://deadline.com/2018/07/altere...ies-1202434841/


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**** yeah
I plan on rewatching season 1


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