This is all subjective so relax. You seem pretty narrow minded and foolishly believes your own opinion is a fact. It isn't. We will see what the MCU has in store but I'd bet against him as the next big bad. Want to take the bet ?
I'm not saying that Doom WILL be the next big bad, but he WOULD make a great villain in the MCU and absolutely could be the next big bad. Who knows.. I doubt they'll have the rights sorted out in time anyway..unfortunately.
If I were to guess I'd say Doom arrives in the MCU within the next 3 years.
"MCU's Best Villain....coming soon."
I know you want him to be but I don't. Opinions vary. I'm trying to tell arachnid that just because people aren't enthralled with Doom it's all subjective and he needs to relax. I'm also curious if he will take my bet.
Doom is substantially smarter, more arrogant/confident, sometimes more powerful, waaay more layered, more capable, and has a ton more phenomenal stories to pull from that don't even involve the FF. He can easily be a worldwide threat and he doesn't need a gauntlet to do it. He has fought gods, the devil, and became a god himself. Hell, God Emperor Doom had the FF, Avengers, Thanos and tons of other Marvel comics characters team up against him, and flat out called himself God in conversation with fking Thanos right before he murdered him. He wasn't far off either. God Emperor Doom is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. He dwarves Thanos with the Gauntlet, Galactus, and every Celestial, and is even comparable to The Living Tribunal. The best part is, his motivations are completely selfish. It all boils down to his arrogance. Thanos does it out of love for a girl, which is a classic motivation too but also kind of lame for a villain.
When it comes to supervillains, Doctor Doom is the true embodiment of the term. I think of him when I think of supervillains the same way I think of Superman when I think of superheroes. The guy has a presence and capability no other villain comes close to. Thanos may possibly be in the top 7 Marvel villains. Doom is in the running for #1 when it comes to comics in general. The MCU bringing him into the fold is a HUGE deal.
I'm not saying that you cant have a subjective thought or opinion. You can like or dislike a villain all you like. It's like Negan and the Governor. You don't like Negan, and thats fine, but he's had more impact on the group and TWD in general. Doom has a much bigger pool of stories to pull from, and has been the center of so many Marvel events that even looking at him objectively, you have to acknowledge the fact that he is a huge threat in his own right and easily as big as Thanos.
That bet is a bit random. What do you define as "big bad"? Ultron was big enough to be an Avengers villain but he's no Thanos. TBH I'd bet on him being a big bad eventually (most likely after whoever comes next), but he may need set up before then. Phase 4 is already completely planned out so it's more likely he'll be integrated after for Phase 5 or 6 since they barely got him back. He needs to be at the center of an FF story first for sure.
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Doom needs to be introduced into the MCU, but not as Doctor Doom the mega super villain.
Victor Von Doom appears, gains a reputation for being a super genius like Tony Stark and Bruce Banner, is known for his incredible intellectual narcissism and ego, and his background in gypsy magic is made known to the viewers.
That all seems like the logical way to set up Doom as opposed to making another FF film and throwing all of it into 90 minutes.
Yeah, agreed. One of the things I've always liked about Doom was his ambition and sense of growth both mentally and in terms of power. Start him off there, work him up to dictator of Latveria, and go big from there but give him an arc instead of a 10 second scene after a movie here and there like Thanos. Build him up properly.
Do you understand the definition of "Conflating"? Or, confusing? Let me help you here....
1. Again, Power =/= A good villain
2. No one can replicate the infinity gauntlet levels of power without THOTU or Godhood...etc... it's not like Thanos is Infinity Gauntlet level power often.
3. Evil =/= A good villain
4. Doom is a villain that is seen in the pages of the FF, of that you are right. But Doom is a Supervillain that has taken on and defeated teams of heroes, planets and the Universe itself...
5. Doom has defeated Galactus on multiple occasions... Galactus Knows Doom is a threat.
"MCU's Best Villain....coming soon."
Galactus isn't as powerful as Thanos with the Gauntlet. He's up there, but doesn't beat him out. Both are only a fraction of God Emperor Doom, which means that yes, he can be a universal threat. In fact, the Beyonders abilities made him a multiversal threat.
Either way, the point of all that is to show that Doom at his most powerful has dwarfed some of the most powerful villains Marvel has had to offer. Power itself doesn't make one the best villain, but he has had that capability many times over. That said, his best stories IMO are the ones that have kept him more grounded and showcased his character, intellect, and ruthlessness. Those are the stories I want them to adapt (at least to start off).
I'm not arguing who's going to be next. Thats not the point of any of those posts. Chances are they've already planned out the next big bad and they've only recently acquired the rights to Fox. The point is Doom has the capability to deliver us the best Marvel stories to date, and he can easily be an epic threat. He is the best antagonist Marvel has to offer. Eventually, he will be a big bad. Probably not the next, but he's coming.
The Beyonder would actually be cool although it's hard to see current MCU having any kind of chance against him. I still even have doubts we'll get to see Thanos use the gauntlet to it's full comic level capability nevermind the Beyonder or God Emperor Doom.
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