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High Meta Tourney quarter final - Damborgson vs LoB


Rules:
No prep
Standard Equipment
BFR with no possibility of returning in a reasonable time is a loss
Opening + 2 posts
Posters are in full control of the characters

Arena:
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Opponents start at opposite corners of the ring on the ground.
You can leave the ring/fly/use environment.
Deadline for all the posts: next Friday.


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Damborg opening post:

Alright, let’s get this started then.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...=20130326145937

My opponent is Nightshade, who’s got a fair amount of versatility going for her. Shadow constructs, teleporting the whole works. But, as we’ve seen time and time again in comics, versatility does not overshadow power. And in Jenny Spark’s case, she’s got both.

Jenny Sparks controls all forms of electricity to perfection. That includes the electrical signals in Nightshade’s brain.
https://imgur.com/O4LKiIQ
And that is essentially the end of the fight, as I have now fried her brain entirely. Notice, Jenny did that with a look, there was no hand motion, no charge up, it was a glare. The same will happen to Nightshade, who despite all her gloom and doom darkness, has a fairly human anatomy: https://i.imgur.com/wDM0wKj.jpg
Batarangs can take her out, and so can Jenny’s death glare.

Now, what if my opponent has the ability to get past this? She can't because I'll be doing it at the start of the fight, and she will die, make no mistake, but it's always good to entertain other strategies.

I won't be the easiest target to catch. As Jenny can bounce around in her electrical form: https://imgur.com/R5ityQh

It's another valid strategy, to just bounce around and fry her with every passing shot, but since I'm not a sadist, I'll target the brain once again and the end the fight instantly.

Jenny has a lot of one shot mechanics, but what happens if my opponent is just too slippery? (Somehow, since Nightshade doesn't have the reaction speed to outrace my electricity) I'll use my death glare to crack the sky open on Night Shade. Now Night Shade gets to deal with dodging lightning.

https://i.imgur.com/djfyAKD.jpg
https://imgur.com/HNSNhsV

Notice again, their really wasn't hardly any start up time there, just a quick glance and the sky becomes Jenny's. So Thunder Goddess Jenny Sparks rains one shots on the field as soon as Night Shade comes into visibility, assuming any teleportation shenanigans ensue.


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LoB opening post:

LET THE REIGN OF DARKNESS BEGIN

ENTER EMPRESS NIGHTSHADE

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The Nightmare that is Nightshade is an IMMENSELY powerful master of the Nightshade Dimension granting her COMPLETE control over shadows of all kinds!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightshade_(DC_Comics)#Powers_and_abilities

ACT ONE AND DONE: THE INCINERATION OF JENNY SPARKS!

Nightshade enters the arena and IMMEDIATELY turns intangible

http://i.imgur.com/Ttd8geG.jpg

Once intangible and made INVULNERABLE to Jenny Sparks attacks which are ALL physical in nature she uses the power of teleportation.

http://i.imgur.com/cPVa1xA.jpg

TO TELEPORT THE BLONDE WRETCH THAT IS SPARKS INTO THE SUN AS SHE DID ECLIPSO!!!!

WITNESS POWER BEYOND COMPARE!!!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...imscomic299.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...imscomic300.jpg

JENNY SPARKS BECOMES SPACE ASH IN MILLISECONDS!!!!

THE END!

The fight is OVER as Sparks has NO WAY to affect intangible objects and she is INCAPABLE of BOTH surviving exposure to THE SUN and RETURNING to the battlefield in ANY capacity!!!


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NOW, as THE LORD OF THE BATTLEZONE I feel COMPELLED to entertain you and as such I will address the FUTILE attempts Sparks could muster (THAT IS IF I HADN’T TURNED HER INTO BLONDE RIB TIPS IN THE SUN FIRST)

Sparkles could create constructs to attack THE UNBEATABLE NIGHTSHADE!!!

Nightshade can counter with SHADOW BEINGS of her own.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...imscomic250.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...imscomic251.jpg

ALL OF NIGHTSHADE’S ABILITIES ARE DERIVED FROM MAGIC!!!

SPARKLES HAS NO ABILITY TO EFFECT MAGICAL OBJECTS WHATSOEVER!!!

NIGHTSHADE THE NIGHTMARE CAN ENCASE SPARKLES INSIDE A FIELD OF IMPENETRABLE DARKNESS!!!

http://i.imgur.com/Q5eQisR.jpg

THE LAST STAND 0F SPARKLE BARBIE!!!

Here is a list of THE DEMONIC LIES that will be promoted by my opponent.

1. Sparkles can shut off the electricity in Nightshade’s brain.
PERVERSE PROPAGANDA!!!

ONCE AGAIN, NIGHTSHADE HAS THE POWER TO BECOME INTANGIBLE!!!
http://i.imgur.com/Ttd8geG.jpg

[/B]THAT MEANS THAT THE ENTIREITY OF NIGHTSHADE’S BODY IS IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL ATTACK INCLUDING HER BRAIN.[/B]


2.Light-Bright Barbie can become living electricity and attack Nightshade.
A FILTHY FALSEHOOD

Jenny Sparks NEEDS A CONDUIT to enter into IMMEDIATELY or she reverts back to human form.

THERE ARE NO CONDUITS HERE FOR SPARKLES TO ENTER INTO!!!

3. SPARKS KILLED A GOD!!!

LECHEROUS LIES!!!

Sparkles killed “AN ALIEN TERRAFORMER” who INADVERTENTLY started a chain reaction that created life on a planet.

4.SPARKS IS THE SUPERIOR STRATEGIST


MALICOUS MISTRUTH

Nightshade as LEADER of BOTH SUICIDE SQUAD and SHADOWPACT has dealt with more threats on both the PHYSICAL and METAPHYSICAL planes of existence than Sparkles has by a significant margin

Sparks is BARBECUED via TELEPORTATION within SECONDS and there is NOTHING she can do about it.


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I'd like to apologize for not making myself clear in the opening post. There's no fight to be had here, and there's no strategy that works when the electrical signals in your body aren't working.

Jenny Sparks, isn't your average character, who can instantly one shot her opponent, she has absolute and utter control over the electricity in her environment, and that includes the electrical signals in Nightshade's body.

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That is her whole premise, nothing electrical works unless she wants it to. And she doesn't want Nightshade to work. Could the intangibility strategy work? Only if Nightshade entered the arena with prep, and she hasn't. She has to send the signal to the rest of her body to perform the action, and despite what seems like a rather obvious attempt at misleading, she's got a physical form to assault:

https://i.imgur.com/wDM0wKj.jpg

So, what is this, a quick draw situation? My character either fries LoB or he teleports me first? Not so, my friends.

The very basis of his attack, the very commands he needs to issue to his body to be able to perform that abilities, are under my control, the moment this fight starts, electricity belongs to Jenny Sparks, at the very least, Jenny could muddle with Nightshade enough to produce confusion, since there's no evidence Nightshade would out think Jenny, or that she should be quicker by any means, a situation where Nightshade tries to go intangible and Jenny catches her in the act, equals a win for Jenny.

http://i.imgur.com/Ttd8geG.jpg

It takes a moment, that's all I need. My thoughts being in control of hers and all that.

This is the essence of Jenny Sparks, nothing electrical works, unless she wants it to, and that will include mental commands, because that is the will of my character.

To address some of what the Lord of El has to say however, Jenny Sparks can indeed temporarily become electricity and zap Nightshade for the one shot.

https://imgur.com/R5ityQh

She may have started with a conduit, but unless the concrete counts, you can clearly see her performing the attack without the need of one, and all she needs is that moment.

Also, a backup strategy for Nightshade seems to be to catch me in darkness? First off, it's not impenetrable:

http://i.imgur.com/3b7iYnM.jpg

And that type of power is nothing compared to Jenny Spark's, who, despite LoB's blatant attempts at downplaying, can essentially fry the brain of god.

https://i.imgur.com/g2XUD9V.jpg
https://imgur.com/x9cTfek

It was strange attempt to lowball calling him a being that can put creation into play...but I'll take it. This should show the level of control that Jenny has.

I have more raw power, I have better one shot mechanics, and thought itself is your enemy when facing me because I decide if those signals reach their intended targets or not. Jenny Sparks doesn't even seem like a meta honestly.

GG, LoB.


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Damborg final post:

Alright everyone, this is the wrap up to our battlezone, thanks for reading thumb up and thanks to LoB for his usual role play, it's fun as usual big grin

But here's why Jenny Sparks wins

We're both attempting to one shot the other, but my plan is a true instant kill. I don't need to phase and then act, all I need is a look.

https://i.imgur.com/O4LKiIQ.jpg

hands in pockets, casual stride, brain functioning interrupted. There's no ambiguity here. Also note that she can completely slice people's heads off with a hand wave, maybe I'll do that after Nightshade is busy dying.

If it comes to quick draw, at the very least I'm fast enough to catch her in the act, and disrupt her enough to then use my other one shot kill abilities which also move at an incredible rate that Nightshade can't hope to react to. Not that I have to stop thinking just because she has, I can just continue to fry her brain.

Nothing electrical works if I don't want it to. This is the entire M.O. of Jenny Sparks. Where there is electricity, I have dominion, and as I showed before, Nightshade has a body to assault:

https://i.imgur.com/wDM0wKj.jpg

And since a batarang can cause damage to the brain enough for a ko, so too can my death glare.

Nightshade has limits that she herself has expressed. If it comes to a battle of power, I can rain down power.



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There is no construct that Nigthshade con produce that stands up to a thunderstorm by Jenny Sparks. It takes but a look to the sky, and it rains down death on the fairly human Nightshade.

So I've got her beat on the quickdraw, and I've got her beat on the full guns a blazing power fight. Any versatility tricks or trying to mess with my character by engulfing me in darkness are easily avoided by the fact that Jenny isn't limited to her human form, and has an entire history of turning into electicity. She appreciates having a conductor so she doesn't revert so quickly to human form, but even small jumps by her are deadly and usable as escape tactics to cover great distance insanely quickly.

https://i.imgur.com/R5ityQh.jpg

As you can see she bounced off the concrete and into her opponents face, a tactic I can easily replicate here.

But...let's talk about LoB's tactics. I'm not entirely convinced that her going intangible is such an awesome idea for Nightshade. Not because she can't do it, but because for the majority of her feats, she's got a physical form. She would need to prove that she can do all these things that LoB has said, while also being able to process her intangibility, and I have yet to see evidence of that.

http://i.imgur.com/Ttd8geG.jpg

As you've seen the scan aplenty by now, it's clear that she has some form of intangibility, but to be able to do all the things LoB said she would while in the form? Highly. Suspect.

If her intangibility is characterized by that dark aura she gained, then these feats:

https://i.imgur.com/cPVa1xA.jpg
https://imgur.com/Q5eQisR

two of his major attacks, are all done while she's solid. And if she's solid, there's no doubt I can affect her.

Could it be done? Sure, I guess. Even if it was I have already explained why I can beat it, but I have not posted anything I can't back up with feats. His feats, much more speculation is involved.

So, in a quickdraw scenerio, I win.

In a power vs power scenerio, I can overwhelm him.

Versatility fight, I can shut it down.

And ontop of that, his posts are suspect to begin with.

Jenny Sparks wins, guys. thumb up And not from lack of power on my opponents end, her abilities are just hax.

GG.


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I can't quote him, so I'm formatting by hand. [f*ck your colors, LoB. Seriously]

You're welcome.

LoB final post:

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THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!

NOW FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT ABOUT JENNY SPARKS!!!


JENNY SPARKS IS POWERLESS WITHOUT AN EXTERNAL SOURCE OF ELECTRICTY TO DRAW POWER FROM!!!


BEHOLD!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny...s_and_abilities

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Limitation

AS with ALL fights in the BATTLEZONE ARENA this is a FEATURELESS ENVIRONMENT!!!


There are NO electrical wires, Cell towers, Satellites, etc. for Sparkles to draw energy from!!!

JENNY SPARKS IS DOOMED!!!


Now, you might say Jenny has to have SOME power to make this a fight. FINE, Sparks will have her AVERAGE level of power.


When my opponent shows Jenny ELECTROCUTING SUPERHEROS, DESTROYING SPACESHIP ARMADAS, or DEFEATING MYTHICAL GIANTS. ALL these events involved her AUGMENTING her abilities from an OUTSIDE ELECTRICAL SOURCE.

NO OUTSIDE ELECTRICAL SOURCE EXISTS HERE

Look at THIS SCAN as a PRIME example of the PLOT DEVICE sources of power Sparkles needs to function!!!

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Jenny Sparks is LITERALLY standing in front of a LIGHT POST in order to take on a handful of F@#$%^G FOOT SOLDIERS!!!

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I GUARANTEE that if you watch closely EVERY scan of Sparkles my opponent provides in his final post will have Jenny Sparks CONVENIENTLY near an outside source of power that is NOT present OR accessible on THIS Battlefield.

Now, Sparkles contends she can deal with the constructs created by Nightshade
LIES!!!!

THE LEVEL OF POWER NEEDED TO DESTROY NIGHTSHADE’S CONSTRUCTS IS...
http://i.imgur.com/3b7iYnM.jpg

“THEY’RE GENERATING A LIGHT ON THE ORDER OF THIRTY THOUSAND LUMENS PER SQUARE INCH! THAT’S BRIGHTER THAN THE SURFACE OF THE SUN!!”

Even WITH an outside amp Sparkles could NEVER match the brightness of the surface of the sun let alone EXCEED it!!!


Judges, here is what Sparkles must prove to defeat Nightshade.

1.Can Jenny Sparks effect intangible objects?
http://i.imgur.com/Ttd8geG.jpg
ANSWER- NO, Jenny Sparks has NO ability to effect intangible objects.

2. Can Jenny Sparks escape teleportation into the sun?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...x=1513948415256
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...x=1513948415622

ANSWER-NO, Jenny Sparks has NO ability to return to the battlefield after being teleported OR survive that proximity to the Sun!!!


3. Can Jenny Sparks effect MAGICAL objects?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...x=1513948442690
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/...x=1513948443106
http://i.imgur.com/Q5eQisR.jpg

ANSWER-NO, Jenny Sparks has NO ability to effect MAGICAL objects!!!

4 Can Jenny Sparks react FASTER than the speed of thought?

ANSWER- NO, Sparkles has NORMAL human stats in ALL categories including REACTION SPEED!!! She will NOT be able to stop Nightshade from turning INTANGIBLE and as a consequence she won’t be able to stop her being teleported Into the Sun.


IN CONTRAST, WITHOUT convenient PLOT DEVICES Nightshade was both FAST and POWERFUL enough to contend with

THE SPECTRE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(character)#Powers_and_abilities

ECLIPSO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclip...s_and_abilities


In conclusion, Jenny Sparks in the context of a TEAM in addition to convenient PLOT DEVICES can prove to be a formidable opponent. HOWEVER, this is the Battlezone and both THE AUTHORITY and the presence of OUTSIDE electrical sources of power are completely absent. All sparks has is the ability to effect Nightshade’s body and given Nightshade’s INTANGIBILITY that is NOT an option.

To gIVE Sparkles the victory a judge would have to grant Sparkles the ability to use electricity INNATELY since there are NO outside sources of power. Sparks does NOT have that power. Second, Sparkles would have to be able to move faster than the speed of thought. Again, her powers DON’T allow for that. Third, Jenny Sparks would need the ability to ESCAPE teleportation and return to the battlefield. Once again, that is NOT within Sparkles powerset. Lastly, Jenny Sparks would need to have a level of invulnerability to being in the sun. She doesn’t have it.

My opponent CANNOT provide you with ANY scans to refute the claims I’ve made here. Conversely, EVERY scan I’ve provided supports my claims about Nightshade’s SUPERIOR power and versatility in this matchup WITHOUT the convenience of plot devices such as OUTSIDE sources of power and team protection.

The choice is clear…


NIGHTSHADE IS TRIUMPHANT!!!

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Bentley:

Knowing Little about Nightshade before this debate I already expected Damborgson to go the "quickdraw" route with Jenny. Ultimately and given LoB's defense against any huge showings of power, I believe quickdraw remains the superior strategy to weight whether Jenny is able to easily win this, or if Nightshade can entrap her and do away with her.

In my opinion LoB did not establish what he could do while intangible or whether it could resist energy attacks. Also his teleportation seemed to require pushing Eclipso into a blackhole... Could he do that if Jenny became energy and increased her speed well beyond human levels? I believe that if it came to that it'd be Nightshade's battle to lose, but I wish LoB's illustrated more of his potential plans instead of essentially trying to disqualify Jenny as a threat.

Damborgson should've predicted that Jenny's limits would be used and argue that her standard equipment includes electrical communication devices and that Nightshade being a team player probably posseses those too. But I'll give him the credit that he didn't have time to reply to that argument and that he did focus on the scans LoB provided... Without bringing up wiki links.

This was honestly really close and LoB did convince me Nightshade would win in the attrition war if all his assumptions proved to be true, basically playing the same cards he used differently, I would've given him the win. But in my mind, even a diminished Jenny Sparks could match a Batarang in hitting power, so a lot of what Damborgson brought seems more in point with how the match would go, despite the fact he repeated himself quite a lot (well, that happens when your characters have a handful of showings).

Damborgson has my vote.


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Kris:

Damborgson/Jenny Sparks vs LoB/Nightshade
A match with two excellent characters and two somewhat likeable debaters.
Damborg’s strategy essentially had him blitz Nightshade by instantly going for the brain-fry, putting his money on the quick-draw. Not a bad strategy considering Jenny Sparks seemingly having a lot of reaction and speed feats. There were lots and lots of power, lots of showings of Jenny Sparks flying around and unleashing hell, and a few pokes at Nightshade though not many. He does a good job of establishing Jenny Sparks as a real powerhouse and I would say that he succeeds in that regard.
LoB’s opening strategy involved him going intangible and then teleporting Jenny Sparks directly into the sun. Instead of going straight for the jugular he prioritized a defensive opener, one I think served him well. Instead of opting for raw power LoB showcases Nightshade’s versatility and tries to hammer home two points, Nightshade can port Jenny and Jenny can’t do anything because there is no electricity out in Cell’s arena.
Well, well.
Like so many matches this one ended up being about who’s quicker on the draw. In that regard I think LoB wins the match. Jenny might be a bit faster but I believe that turning oneself intangible is a lot easier than targeting the opponent. Had they both attacked one another then I believe Jenny would have won. Whether or not the BFR will be an immediately successful tactic is something I am still not fully convinced of, but I am lenient towards LoB’s argument that Jenny would be severely hampered out in the middle of nowhere. The battlefield puts her at a severe disadvantage in an exceedingly close match.
Therefore my vote goes to the despicable, the wretched, the downright fluffy Lord of Brooklyn.
All in all I would say that the match was a bit lackluster. If anything I would say that Damborg was brought down by a lack of familiarity with the characters. That and an inability to directly counter LoB’s claims of Jenny being nigh-powerless. This match leaves a bitter taste in my mouth as Jenny seemed to be screwed not just by LoB's competent argumentation but also by an unfortunate choice of location.


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Since this was a draw, I asked Pr to break the tie:


Basically, I thought both argument were based on some pretty hard to prove suppositions. How much energy Jenny Sparks can bring, how Nightshade somehow has Human-like biology and so on? I saw very little proof, and a lot of reaching. Maybe that's the nature of the tournaments, but it doesn't engender confidence.

As for who wins? Slight edge to Damborgson. A being composed of darkness just doesn't tend to do well against beings that can become pure light, and Damborgson's argument was convincing enough to counteract anything LoB shot his way.

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Winner of the match: Damborgson.


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WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST ASK JBL TO CAST A VOTE IN MY MATCH?!!!

PR, AS THE F!@#$ING TIE-BREAKER!!!

ABSOLUTE !@#$%% GARBAGE!!!


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Good game LoB, was a close one!

Thanks judges for taking the time. You had 4 posts to write, it had to be a bit time consuming.


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