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Per "the movies physics" Ozy only has normal human strength.


If that is the case then so does Bucky.


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Prove his superstrength is sufficient to hurt TChalla. Take note that TChalla has taken shots from Bucky and easily got back up. You'd need to prove that Ozy is at least as strong as Bucky if not more.


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Prove his superstrength is sufficient to hurt TChalla. Take note that TChalla has taken shots from Bucky and easily got back up. You'd need to prove that Ozy is at least as strong as Bucky if not more.


Being able to get back up doesn’t mean you didn’t get hurt or even damaged internally. It doesn’t take much super strength to hurt TChalla. A punch with 2000 psi should do it. Ozy exerted more than that in his feats.


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If that is the case then so does Bucky.


What does the Watchmen's movie physics have to do with Bucky? Bucky was never in the Watchmen.


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It doesn’t take much super strength to hurt TChalla.

A punch with 2000 psi should do it.


What now? T'Challs survived (and did so seemingly unharmed) an explosion which killed shitloads of people and he (and his father) was one of the people closets to the explosion.

You think someone 7.5% stronger than Ivan Drago could hurt someone like MCU's T'Challa with a punch?


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Being able to get back up doesn’t mean you didn’t get hurt or even damaged internally. It doesn’t take much super strength to hurt TChalla. A punch with 2000 psi should do it. Ozy exerted more than that in his feats.


Like I said, prove it. Don't just say stuff, provide reasoning behind it. Bucky is strong enough to match Cap, who's strong enough to carry a motorcycle above his head. Prove that Ozy can at least match that, otherwise TChalla will just shrug off his blows.


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FB, I'd correct you in that Bucky is comparable to Cap, with the exception of his robotic arm which is considerably more powerful than Cap.

It took the use of both of Cap's legs to overpower and pin Bucky's robo-arm.


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What now? T'Challs survived (and did so seemingly unharmed) an explosion which killed shitloads of people and he (and his father) was one of the people closets to the explosion.

You think someone 7.5% stronger than Ivan Drago could hurt someone like MCU's T'Challa with a punch?
The explosion didn’t touch TChalla at all. It wasn’t focused on him. It wasn’t focused on anything behind his father. His clothes were in tack which proves it.


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FB, I'd correct you in that Bucky is comparable to Cap, with the exception of his robotic arm which is considerably more powerful than Cap.

It took the use of both of Cap's legs to overpower and pin Bucky's robo-arm.


Sorry, not sure what you're implying. Are you saying that Bucky is not superhumanly strong like Cap other than his robo arm?
Or are you saying Bucky is as strong as Cap with the exception of his robo arm which is even stronger?


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Sorry, not sure what you're implying. Are you saying that Bucky is not superhumanly strong like Cap other than his robo arm?
Or are you saying Bucky is as strong as Cap with the exception of his robo arm which is even stronger?


The latter. Bucky's biological parts are on par with Cap, but his robotic arm in stronger.


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Like I said, prove it. Don't just say stuff, provide reasoning behind it. Bucky is strong enough to match Cap, who's strong enough to carry a motorcycle above his head. Prove that Ozy can at least match that, otherwise TChalla will just shrug off his blows.
Matching someone in a fight doesn’t prove strength. In fiction we have much weaker characters matching stronger characters (like Colossus matching Hulk or Gladiator).
If you showed that in direct grapple were Bucky was holding his own or winning then yes, it would hold some evidence to a strength comparison.


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The explosion didn’t touch TChalla at all. It wasn’t focused on him. It wasn’t focused on anything behind his father. His clothes were in tack which proves it.


Um the explosion killed his father and T'Challa was caught in the blast, as it sent his ass flying. Which film did you watch?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAt8kCf4WXk

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I liked how h1 claimed the blast wasn't focused on anything behind BP's father when that is the direction the blast came from.

Further proof that h1 has no clue what he's talking about.


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Matching someone in a fight doesn’t prove strength. In fiction we have much weaker characters matching stronger characters (like Colossus matching Hulk or Gladiator).
If you showed that in direct grapple were Bucky was holding his own or winning then yes, it would hold some evidence to a strength comparison.


Bucky, Cap and TChalla all grappled with each other at some point or another, none of them seemed to hold a significant strength advantage over the other.

Your problem here is this: Ozy doesn't have either the strength or striking feats to match any of those 3. So I'll rephrase my question to you: Prove that Ozy can strike strong enough to actually hurt TChalla.


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The latter. Bucky's biological parts are on par with Cap, but his robotic arm in stronger.


Copy, and I do agree. I was just trying to take it step by step for H1. Concentrate on the human parts of Bucky first before bringing in his robo arm.


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Um the explosion killed his father and T'Challa was caught in the blast, as it sent his ass flying. Which film did you watch?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAt8kCf4WXk

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Yet his suit was undamaged, Black widow survived, etc. Just movie physics. The writer had no intention of that being a durability feat. So it isn’t.


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Bucky, Cap and TChalla all grappled with each other at some point or another, none of them seemed to hold a significant strength advantage over the other.

Your problem here is this: Ozy doesn't have either the strength or striking feats to match any of those 3. So I'll rephrase my question to you: Prove that Ozy can strike strong enough to actually hurt TChalla.


Show me.


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Show me.


Show you what? I'm the one asking you for proof of Ozy's strength, and seeing as I asked first I think it's only reasonable that you provide first.


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Um the explosion killed his father and T'Challa was caught in the blast, as it sent his ass flying. Which film did you watch?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAt8kCf4WXk

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Yeah, we literally see T'Challa running towards his father and getting flung like a sack of potatoes. And we are explicitly told later that his father was not the only casualty either. So, we know T'Challa survived a blast that killed multiple other people, and barely got scratched in the process. But it's H1, so of course he is going to downplay the crap out of the feat.


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Sorry, not sure what you're implying. Are you saying that Bucky is not superhumanly strong like Cap other than his robo arm?
Or are you saying Bucky is as strong as Cap with the exception of his robo arm which is even stronger?


Anyone who still argues that Bucky isn't superhuman is a massive troll. We've seen him perform multiple superhuman feats, we've had him referred to as a super soldier at multiple points, had the directors themselves make comparisons between him and Steve, and even use him to showcase another character's superhuman nature. Anyone who argues against this is going directly against both screen feats and writer's intent.


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