No, good writing changes people. There was none here. Zilch. Nada. Nothing. If you wanna make Luke Skywalker into the pathetic figure we saw in this movie, you have to do a hell of lot more than simply say "he's changed."
You have to show the audience what made Luke give up on the level optimism he was willing to express for even the likes of Darth ****ing Vader, a real and actual dark lord of the sith, in ROTJ. Luke saw no good in Kylo? Yet the movie itself shows Kylo unable to kill Leia after becoming a Sith Lord? Yet Snoke himself is shown telling us he's blatantly conflicted? You mean to tell me Luke couldn't see any of that BEFORE the dude became Snoke's apprentice? Bullsh-t, movie! Complete bullsh-t.
You have to show the audience why Luke doesn't decide to take it upon himself to right the wrong he has committed in unleashing Kylo Ren on the galaxy and letting him kill the other apprentices. At best, the movie was able to establish why he's a grumpy old gray Jedi dude who has doubts about the Jedi philosophy (i.e. Jolee Bindo), but there was nothing about his situation that supported him going to an island for 30 years and giving up completely. That's complete and total bullsh-t.
Last edited by Dark-Kenshin on Dec 20th, 2017 at 05:57 PM
Iyo not mine. He failed Ben and in his failure helped his descent into the dark side. That's an experience traumatic enough to bring about change., you probably don't understand how human development works. Luke was always kind of pathetic. He threw his saber down after he trounced Vader. This is subjective and your sensitive feelings are hurt. I enjoy your pain.
We see it. His own actions in standing over Ben with his lightsaber drawn. He felt shame and failed him. He saw a scared boy who was scared of him. Luke's fear overshadowed his judgment but he wasn't going to go through with it. No one is all knowing the movie holds your ****inf hand into the point that it's ok to fail to grow. Luke failed but he also learned by his own failures.
Snoke has no doubt in himself whereas Luke does. Luke doubted the Jedi and mocked them for their failures. I ****ing loved it and have been mocking you Jedi fans for years. They were chalk full of failure especially Yoda.
He believed the Jedi should end. He learned about the importance of failure and how someone can grow from it. You didn't like the film I loved it. Relax you aren't the director nor was Mark.
He's right on every point. This whole thing feels like big budget fan fiction.
And they failed. The audience hates the movie and it has a bigger BO dropoff than BvS and the toy sales are underperforming. All the good will they generated with TFA is gone now. The Han Solo movie looks like a train wreck too, so by the time IX rolls around people will be suffering from Star Wars fatigue. Turns out purposefully alienating your core fanbase for a group of people who don't watch Star Wars is not a good business strategy.