We are talking about raw power he's only felt once before in Ben. He felt Vader's power whereas Kylo has an innate fear of failure.
He has a chip on his shoulder. Snoke mocked him to manipulate him. The visual dictionary says he's tremendous at manipulating him. If you don't grasp the point of him mocking Kylo then I can't help you.
Um, yeah, I know. I'm telling you that it doesn't contradict anything because raw power != actualized power.
Your entire argument for both Snoke > Luke and Kylo > Vader is that the f*cking dark side users are underestimating themselves and need quanchi to show them just how powerful they are. Of course you've presented exactly zero evidence that Kylo is on Vader's level except that he has lots of "raw power", but hey, that's on you.
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Snoke's utter domination of two characters whereas Vader never even dominated Kenobi in force power. Hell, they stalemated and Vader is more powerful in the force.
We see her raw power resist Kylo's trained power so it's very impressive whether it's raw or not.
Vader at the point of episodes four to six had his ceiling lowered immensely after Rots. Kylo wins. If we look at common opponents Luke who fared better ?
Lmao at your circular logic. You say Rey is powerful because she resisted Ren, and Ren is powerful because he has lots of raw power, which is impressive because Rey has that same raw power and resisted Ben.
Just. Stop.
Also Vader did better because he was dueling Luke while Rey got disarmed in seconds. LOL
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Ben, even as an Old was still feared by the Empire. He’s connection to the force became even more powerful. Even Vader acknowledge in Ep4.
Ben only become more powerful as he aged. It’s even alluded that Jin further taught Ben after he had died. That’s why Ben was able to become one with the Force.
Because Vader wasn't that great and was still a peer to Kenobi. They feared the Jedi especially one as powerful as Kenobi.
None of this matters to his skill with a lightsaber. He was far past his best as was Vader. This was an era bereft of young up and coming Jedi. No, he debeloped the same techniques as taught to Yoda by Qui. This has nothing to do with overall power. Anakin was able to merge with the force in Rotj as well. That didn't mean shit tbh. We've seen many Jedi merge with the force post death.
His physical skills and mobility were greatly diminished. So yes he got smarter in other areas but he was nowhere near his potential. Kylo destroys him.
He was destroyed by Luke, didn't show an edge on Kenobi despite age taking a toll on Obi, and he also failed to even retrieve the Death Star plans against some non force sens robes who weren't even trained soldiers. Kylo wrecks him, stooge.
Convenient how you ignore his fight against Ahsoka, or him b*tching Ezra and Kanaan. Or casually flinging an AT-ST. Kylo and Rey apparently can't even use the Force in combat, as it would've helped them greatly against the Praetorian Guard.
Tano ****ed his face up and he dominated Ezra...who cares ?
Or used his power to move it after he was taken down by it by Kanan. We see Kylo use the force in combat. Just evcause he does t use it in every scene doesn't mean he can't. It just means he didn't you moron. Kylo came out on top did he not.
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