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No, it is a baseless word you pick and choose when to apply because you don't deal in facts just your silly justifications. You're a hypocrite we get it.
My point was that you dismiss everything that shows us that Rey is on Kylo's level.
I said that Rey beating a injured Kylo is still a good feat for her, and your rebuttal basically was "MARY SUE!". I mean, I guess that she's a Mary Sue, but that isn't changing her powerlevel.
It's obviously that Snoke is a Sidious-Valkorion rip-off, so much of an original character, Abrams. Or it is Disney's own cheap version of Valkorion.
Knights of Zakuul-Knights of Ren
Kylo Ren&Rey-Caedus-ish Revan&Meetra Surik
Snoke Not a Sith-Valkorion not a Sith
Snoke cut in half by Rey-Sidious cut in half by Luke
Snoke is scarred and deformed-Sidious is scarred and deformed
Snoke uses Force lightning-Sidious uses Force lightning
Snoke is old-Valkorion is old
Snoke is fond of both Force sides-Valkorion is fond of both Force sides
Last I checked, Byss is in the canon continuity of Star Wars, so does Malachor V.
It's obviously that they might set Snoke as the Disney version of the Emperor Reborn Palpatine in the Dark Empire comic books. I am sure this isn't the last time we heard of Snoke.
Funny part is that 'Snoke' in Norwegian means 'to rout'=a disorderly retreat of defeated troops
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How are these ripping off the other characters? It's not like Dark Jedi aren't a thing, they don't have to be a Sith, Force Lighting isn't unique to Sidious and being old...well that's normal.
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Snoke is a Valkorion-Sidious rip-off. I am dazzled that the great Ant can't see through the lies of the Mice.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
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Yeah, watch the throne room scenes of both TLJ and ROTJ. You will notice that on a ridiculous amount of occasions Snoke uses the exact same language as Palpatine. Even getting Rey to observe the space battle etc.
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis
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I honestly thought Snoke had salvaged footage of the ROTJ Throne Room scene from the remains of the blown up Death Star, and watches it on repeat during his spare time.
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis
You can't worm around this. Ren's full potential is Luke level, not Vader level. So yes, I agree that if Ren reached Peak Luke + level, Snoke wouldn't be able to handle him.
Literally irrelevant. Snoke isn't peak Luke level, I agree.
The hell?
You're the one trying to assert that Snoke needs his guards to subdue Kylo. I'm saying that just because the guards instinctively come to Snoke's side, doesn't mean he needs them to subdue Kylo. :/
Headcanon.
Uhh, cool.
I shouldn't have bothered responding to the full post. Half of this shit is irrelevant. Rey is Kylo's counterpart, as he grows in power, so does she, hence why they're visibly equals. You'd have to be braindead to not see otherwise. That she has less training clearly doesn't matter, it seems, as she annihilated (an admittedly injured, broken) Kylo) without ever wielding a lightsaber.
In your next post, could you provide more solid evidence and less headcanon? Thanks.
Oh lord. :/
The calling didn't save her from Snoke, did it?
They stalemated. They're equals. Get over it.
Holy crap.
Rey, while literally having no training in the force, visibly overpowers Kylo's intrusions and in terms pinpoints and reveals his deepest fear. That is overwhelming. You're being braindead right now.
Telepathically? Yes. Telekinetically? Yes. Saber skill? Perhaps, not that it's relevant to Snoke's domination of Rey.
I mean, what are you actually suggesting here? That Rey doesn't need to read those Jedi books know she can use the force, or train in the slightest ever wield a lightsaber in her life, but that she's still going to magically be equal superior to Kylo in Episode 9 7?
TFA already did that.
Are you okay?
I literally never once mentioned the lightning attack as a feat for Snoke. What I DID mention as a feat for Snoke indicating vast superiority to Kylo is his domination of Rey and ability to casually perform a feat multiple times that would kill Kylo from the exertion of doing it. Rey and Kylo stalemate for the lightsaber, Snoke grabs it from Rey and smacks her on the head without any effort whatsoever. Give me a break.
Quan really has broken you, man. I never once mentioned putting Snoke on Palpatine's level. Not without more evidence.
This is the most irrelevant response I have ever seen. There is so much context here that I don't even know how to begin to respond to this. The evidence shows the following:
Snoke can casually perform a feat multiple times that would kill Kylo from the exertion.
Snoke can effortlessly rip the lightsaber from Rey's grip and steal whatever knowledge he wants from her, and ragdoll her, all casually.
The same Rey is holistically implied and empirically shown to be every bit as powerful as Kylo.
The guards are irrelevant to the argument at hand, as I never argued that Snoke's lightning attack proves vast superiority to Kylo (other stuff does).
I don't want any headcanon in your next post. Put up or shut up.
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