Given the way they are treating the Canon GE, that's a surprise actually...but then the FO hasn't had much either. It seems that the FO has superior tech in some areas, it doesn't seem to have it in others. Namely their troopers with their helmets unable to filter out toxins and other things of that nature, although these are more minor details really.
__________________ "Imperial troops have entered the base! Imperial troops have entered—"
―Jobin, warning Echo Base' stragglers of the snowtroopers' advance
Last edited by Zenwolf on Dec 25th, 2017 at 07:15 PM
In size not in raw power. Starkiller base alone would rip through Sidious' Death Stars in a single barrage.
They have fleet killers at the First Order's disposal. Palpatine ruled through duplicity whereas Snoke ruled through power and brute force. I have always said which kind of character I prefer here. I am consistent.
Nah, the book says the FO's navy is too small to rival the Empire's despite its firepower. Meaning that while the FO has greater firepower pound for pound, it's just too small to be on par with the Empire.
In size not in terms of power. You don't need invasion squads when you can take out five planets per Starkiller's barrages. Would you be interested in battlezoning the First Order vs. your empire post episode 9's DVD release. I know it's a while away but if you're confident then why not.
In size as I said not in terms of power as I said. I also said with a weapon that can obliterate multiple planets per usage I'll debate for the First Order. If you're so funnily convinced then agree to the challenge. Shouldn't this be a walk in the park, Gideon ? Comprise another Palpatinesque type essay focusing on the strengths of the empire with what we see on screen.
You'll already have a trilogy, Rogue One, and possibly Han Solo as additional examples of the empire's might. This won't be for years so just say yes and we can work out the specifics when the time comes.
quanchi you're not interpreting the language properly, "too small to rival" with no "in size qualifier implies "size disadvantage not compensated for by later mentioned tech advantage", not "smaller in size".
Going back to the thread at hand, the only people I see as being above Snoke definitively (as of right now) are Luke, Sidious, Yoda, and Anakin. Some would say Vader is more powerful than Anakin (though I'd contest the notion,) so maybe you could include peak!Vader as well (though I'm not sure, personally). Windu I'm also not really sure about.
I'm also not really seeing how Snoke's admiration for Vader implies that Snoke is inferior. Hell, Snoke wanted Kylo to become the next Vader, but ultimately still have Kylo under his thumb.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”