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Can Sidious one-shot Revan?
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Can Sidious one-shot Revan?
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Sidious isn't one-shotting anybody of Revan's calibre.


He only stopped a little short of one-shotting vaapad-super-Mace and Yoda for that matter.


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That's why Mace kicked his ass thumb up


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If we choose to believe that Revan managed to deflect Nyriss' lightning without the moronic belief that he can wield both sides of the Force(drawing power from Dromund Kaas' dark side nexus). Mayhaps he could stand a chance against Palpatine. Nyriss' lightning is dang powerful. It turned Nyriss into ash when Revan backfired it at her.


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I mean, some might point to Vitiate besting Revan, but Vitiate's lightning was charged and amped. Given Vitiate is easily comparable to Sidious (post-ROTS imo) Sidious won't be one-shotting unless he's amped on a DS Nexus and charges his attack to a level stronger than his average lightning. Which is not impossible, and I don't believe Revan wins the fight by any means. But Sidious isn't one-shotting unless he meets the aforementioned prerequisites.

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Given Vitiate is easily comparable to Sidious (post-ROTS imo).


Good thing your opinion means f-uck all.


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Good thing your opinion means f-uck all.
Means as much as yours.

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Except post-RotS Sidious >>> Novel Vitiate isn't an opinion it's a fact.


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If you punch yourself and it hurt are you strong or are you weak

Truly baffling huh


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If you punch yourself and it hurt are you strong or are you weak


Are you paying attention to what I said?

The fact that Revan managed to backfire Nyriss' lightning without any external aid(if we don't hold anymore the wielding both sides moronic belief) on a dark side nexus that was crippling his Force-user condition proves he is a lot more powerful than PT/OT fans give him credit for.

Nyriss' lightning turned her into ash(this was not a charred husk, it was total consumption).
If I remember correctly, and I do, Sidious' lightning has never been potent enough to turn others into ash. He only turned three-five Dark Side Prophets into a pile of bones on the world where Maul fought Vader.
Yes, there is a comic-book(hardly could call it); it's more of a visual art where Sidious conjures a Sith worm, gets out of him, and disintegrates him. But honestly that's just a symbolic description of ROTS Sidious' true nature.




Back on topic, that means, in order for Revan to deflect her attack, he has to be beyond her strengths.


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Except post-RotS Sidious >>> Novel Vitiate isn't an opinion it's a fact.
"Fact"

lol

Sidious has nothing in his list of feats pre-DE putting him above any version of Vitiate Novel and afterwards. and feats>accolades.

So the idea that ANY version of Sidious is any more than a single ">" above Vitiate, is laughable.

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"Fact"

lol

Sidious has nothing in his list of feats pre-DE putting him above any version of Vitiate Novel and afterwards. and feats>accolades.

So the idea that ANY version of Sidious is any more than a single ">" above Vitiate, is laughable.


Lol, so burying the Lusankya and TP'ing the imperial military are less impressive than whatever novel Vitiate has done via prepped rituals on a nexus?


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"Fact"

lol

Sidious has nothing in his list of feats pre-DE putting him above any version of Vitiate Novel and afterwards. and feats>accolades.

So the idea that ANY version of Sidious is any more than a single ">" above Vitiate, is laughable.
I hope you're pulling an bart


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feats>accolades


Says who?


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Lol, so burying the Lusankya and TP'ing the imperial military are less impressive than whatever novel Vitiate has done via prepped rituals on a nexus?


He didn't bury the Lusankya with TK or anything. He TP'd the military and civilians in that sector and had them do it. Something you Sheevites seem to conveniently forget.

From the "New Essential Guide to Characters", iirc. It's stated directly that the Imperials did it while under the mind fogging powers of Sidious' TP. Sidious had no direct affect on how the ship was moved, it wasn't done with TK like many of you wrongfully believe it was.

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I hope you're pulling an bart
Nope. Going by feats, Sidious has nothing putting him above Vitiate.

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Says who?
Most debate circles treat feats better than accolades. Feats are legitimate showings of power, generally they aren't exaggerated, they're direct representations of what a character can do. An accolade of "____ is most powerful", despite having inferior feats to someone else, isn't worth the paper it's written on.

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Nope. Going by feats, Sidious has nothing putting him above Vitiate.
TKing the Lusankya, stomping Vader, outclassing Plagueis, beating Yoda, ragdolling Dooku & Maul vs nearly getting killed by a mid-tier Jedi & a droid on a DS nexus
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Most debate circles treat feats better than accolades. Feats are legitimate showings of power, generally they aren't exaggerated, they're direct representations of what a character can do. An accolade of "____ is most powerful", despite having inferior feats to someone else, isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Yarael Poof > Exar Kun confirmed.


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TKing the Lusankya, stomping Vader, outclassing Plagueis, beating Yoda, ragdolling Dooku & Maul vs nearly getting killed by a mid-tier Jedi & a droid on a DS nexus

Yarael Poof > Exar Kun confirmed.


He factually did not TK the Lusankya, lmao, I literally JUST posted the scan proving that.

Being greater than Plagueis means nothing when Vitiate is likewise above Plagueis.

Vitiate borderline one-shotted Revan, who's near enough to Yoda in his own right, by feats.

Dooku and Maul are fodder to Vitiate as well, try harder.

lol @ "mid tier Jedi", Revan (who I'm assuming you're talking about) is easily within Yoda's wheelhouse in regards to power. Plus, Revan didin't really get that close to killing Vitiate.

Kun's feats>>>>Poof's, lmao

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If Sidious mind-fogged Coruscant citizens. That means the power wasn't applicative on them at once, but Palpatine mind-fogged just those in the vicinity of the ship.

Thus, the claim that Sidious mind-fogged the entire Coruscant planet has been debunked.


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