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Deadly shooting in Wichita linked to "Swatting"
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Only if they have slow reflexes and are bad at their chosen profession.

Which again, goes back to training them better. I believe cops should have much more intense and lengthy training, while also paying those who pass said training much more than we currently do.


So you think they *should* be trained as soldiers?


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Not necessarily soldiers, but they should be trained to the point that they are comfortable in various circumstances that they may inevitably find themselves in. Such as an unarmed person moving a little bit.


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But he's not the sole party responsible.

Nice straw man there buddy.

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So you think they *should* be trained as soldiers?

Deflectionary strawman is deflectionary.

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What a silly thing to say. Cops aren't soldiers, they aren't trained that way. Yes, ideally a cop should be calm and collected. But when shit is going down and you think someone is armed and has hostages it is not easy to be all calm and cool. Even the best cop can panic.


Then why does it seem that cops in America have a bad track record of mis-reading the situation & appear to be trigger happy?

This isn't just a one off incident. We're constantly seeing in the head lines of American police shooting & killing innocent people before accessing the situation properly.

Just the other week, 5 American officers shot dead a woman who was wanted for car jacking & was suspected of having a fire arm.

She was fired upon & killed by 5 officers whilst standing in front of a house that she had just broken into & was leaving.

One of the bullets that was fired by the police penetrated the wall & killed a child inside the house.

My point being:
*Do you really need 5 officers firing at once at one person?
*Did all 5 officers panic at once?
*Or were they just trigger happy?
*Didn't any of their training or even common sense kick in to question if there was occupants in the house before firing directly at the house with the woman standing in front of it?

Then you have that other officer who shot dead the woman in her pyjamas, firing whilst still in the driver seat of his vehicle & shooting across his partner in the passenger seat...

Then the officer is legally allowed to refuse to be interviewed?

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Nice straw man there buddy.


So you've completely bnissed the point then. thumb up


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Then why does it seem that cops in America have a bad track record of mis-reading the situation & appear to be trigger happy?

This isn't just a one off incident. We're constantly seeing in the head lines of American police shooting & killing innocent people before accessing the situation properly.

Just the other week, 5 American officers shot dead a woman who was wanted for car jacking & was suspected of having a fire arm.

She was fired upon & killed by 5 officers whilst standing in front of a house that she had just broken into & was leaving.

One of the bullets that was fired by the police penetrated the wall & killed a child inside the house.

My point being:
*Do you really need 5 officers firing at once at one person?
*Did all 5 officers panic at once?
*Or were they just trigger happy?
*Didn't any of their training or even common sense kick in to question if there was occupants in the house before firing directly at the house with the woman standing in front of it?

Then you have that other officer who shot dead the woman in her pyjamas, firing whilst still in the driver seat of his vehicle & shooting across his partner in the passenger seat...

Then the officer is legally allowed to refuse to be interviewed?



Because "Bad Cop Stories" are preferred by the Extreme left Wing Media in the US?

Oh what that is a FACT...not a question.


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So you've completely bnissed the point then. thumb up

I got your point. It's just that nobody on this thread has said anything in disagreement with your point and hence I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with anyone about.

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Because "Bad Cop Stories" are preferred by the Extreme left Wing Media in the US?

Oh what that is a FACT...not a question.


Pretty much. Even experts who testify a police officer wasn't justifed readily admit the media is pushing an unusual amount of stories where a white cop shoots a black man or unarmed minority, or some such.

It's not hard to find all sorts of tragedies, if that's what you want to report on.

Not hard to find stories showing mans better side. IF you want to report on them.


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Pretty much. Even experts who testify a police officer wasn't justifed readily admit the media is pushing an unusual amount of stories where a white cop shoots a black man or unarmed minority, or some such.

It's not hard to find all sorts of tragedies, if that's what you want to report on.

Not hard to find stories showing mans better side. IF you want to report on them.


Excuse the pun, but that sounds pretty much like a cop-out.

You don't see media pushing these kinds of tragedy stories from other parts of the Western world where officers of the law are also placed in life-threatening situations.

Hell, British officers are placed in these same situations & they handle it un-armed. Yet you don't hear of an unusually high number of British officers getting killed in the line of duty. Nor do you hear of unfair, unjust deaths either.

And as far as Australian police go, they're armed but don't have that trigger happy mentality that seems to exist in America.

Yeah you can point out America has the right to bear arms therefore the threat is higher compared to other countries. But instead of finding a solution to gun control, escalating the situation seems to be the only path that American politicians & American police are willing to take.

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