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The Ellimist
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The lack of Tenebrous on your list displeases me, Ell


Tenebrous < Plagueis as a duelist probably.


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Tenebrous was a dueling enthusiast; Plagueis wasn't. Tenebrous barely shared a fraction of his lightsaber knowledge with Plagueis and knows his style inside out.


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Tenebrous is usually overlooked, yes.


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Tyranus cannot be placed under Mace. Dooku is being undersold.


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Tenebrous was a dueling enthusiast; Plagueis wasn't. Tenebrous barely shared a fraction of his lightsaber knowledge with Plagueis and knows his style inside out.


Sure, but from your own powerscaling the difference in raw power should be pretty massive, and I don't think the gap in technical skill is large enough to overcome that, especially as Plagueis was an incredibly skilled duelist himself (if not as enthusiastic about it).


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Tenebrous named Plagueis a master of the art.


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Plagueis didn't like lightsaber dueling any more than Sidious, and yet Sidious is perhaps the greatest duelist in the cosmos despite only fighting a few serious duels in his entire life.


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Sure, but from your own powerscaling the difference in raw power should be pretty massive, and I don't think the gap in technical skill is large enough to overcome that, especially as Plagueis was an incredibly skilled duelist himself (if not as enthusiastic about it).


From my scaling the power gap between Tenebrous and Plagueis is tiny.


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It's interesting to see people place Plagueis on these lists. His lightsaber feats aren't special at all, he didn't give a shit about combat and therefore would've had no motivation to practice or master any of the forms. The little time he did have when he wasn't being Hego Damask was spent training Palpatine, and he later dedicated most of his effort to studying and experimenting with midichlorians.
It doesn't make sense.

It shows actual skill means nothing.


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From my scaling the power gap between Tenebrous and Plagueis is tiny.


How so? I seem to recall Plagueis unbalancing the Force *before* boosting his own midichlorian count.


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I'll have a thing coming explaining that soon


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I dare to put Exar Kun and Darth Nihilus in the Top Tier section. smile alien


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It's interesting to see people place Plagueis on these lists. His lightsaber feats aren't special at all, he didn't give a shit about combat and therefore would've had no motivation to practice or master any of the forms. The little time he did have when he wasn't being Hego Damask was spent training Palpatine, and he later dedicated most of his effort to studying and experimenting with midichlorians.
It doesn't make sense.

It shows actual skill means nothing.


So, Darth Plagueis is a mutated evil version of dr. Rick?


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How so? I seem to recall Plagueis unbalancing the Force *before* boosting his own midichlorian count.


When did Plagueis unbalance the Force in the novel? I thought it was explained that it was the Force's will all along. He even poses this question after their ritual is over.
And when did he boost his own midi-chlorian count? I thought Plagueis was of the idea that more midi-chlorians, doesn't=more Force power.

Maybe that's what he did to Shmi. He boosted her with midi-chlorian semen.


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Plagueis could best virtually anyone in lightsabers apart from Mace and Yoda on the Jedi council.


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Plagueis could best virtually anyone in lightsabers apart from Mace and Yoda on the Jedi council.


Good joke. laughing

Plagueis was more of a Force-user, not a lightsabre duelist.


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Thanks for the agreement.


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Yeah, anyone from the B-Team solos Plagueis right?

Jesus... might as well go to subscribe to evannova, and like his Obi beats Plagueis video ...


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^ Kenobi probably could


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