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Palpatine have official promotion as being who cannot be overcome with conventional methods. He have also unbalanced the Force to dark side and no lightsider could stop him. Have a look:

This was the office of the Chancellor.

Within the chair's shadow sat another shadow: deeper, darker, formless and impenetrable, an abyssal umbra so profound that it drained light from the room around it.

And from the city. And the planet.

And the galaxy.


[…]

The Coruscant nightfall was spreading through the galaxy. The darkness in the Force was no hindrance to the shadow in the Chancellor's office; it was the darkness. Wherever darkness dwelled, the shadow could send perception.


From (Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith)

Palpatine's machinations also eradicated light side. You are wrong about light side returning to balance dark side. Palpatine have made sure of this. See for yourself:

To be sure, the light had been extinguished, but for how long and at what cost?

From (Star Wars: Darth Plagueis)



Darth Vader did not kill Palpatine. He is immortal. Your FANON lowballing cannot overcome canon revelations:

Faced with the Emperor’s limitless power and immortality, Luke succumbed to the dark side.

From (Star Wars: Handbook 3: Dark Empire)



Palpatine came back, stronger than ever. Conventional methods do not stop him. Time you accepted this.
Only the quick quote button is working for ****s sake.

Hyperbole and you taking these words literally in typical biased fashion. I already refuted this garbage. Light will always exist as will darkness. Sidious and his Sith died out under his watch. We see him killed by a handless and weaponless Vader. Sidious truly died like a ***** tbh. Despite his power as the Sith Lord he was unable to break the death grip of Vader. He had time to react and despite Vader's weakness to fl through his suit Sidious was still unsuccessful to defend himself.

Canon only you nitwit.


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Only the quick quote button is working for ****s sake.

Hyperbole and you taking these words literally in typical biased fashion. I already refuted this garbage. Light will always exist as will darkness. Sidious and his Sith died out under his watch.


Did you not see what I posted? Palpatine extinguished light side. He is impenetrable shadow, therefore light cannot penetrate him. He is also immortal, so he will never go away. If he have extinguished light side and never go away, light will not exist. You have refuted nothing.

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We see him killed by a handless and weaponless Vader. Sidious truly died like a ***** tbh. Despite his power as the Sith Lord he was unable to break the death grip of Vader. He had time to react and despite Vader's weakness to fl through his suit Sidious was still unsuccessful to defend himself.


Palpatine allowed himself to be defeated to have fun. Have a look:

The Emperor's confidence rested on a sure knowledge of what he had become... and what the Dark Side could do for him. He seemed open to all the possibilities of the moment: Luke's death, Vader's death... even his own death.

No matter what the outcome of this terrible confrontation, he, Emperor Palpatine, would conquer.


From (Star Wars: Dark Empire [Endnotes])

Palpatine came back anyway so none of it mattered. He have his reasons. Here:

Soon he was ready to strike. Fully healed and in greater control of the Dark Side than ever, he finally acted to end the Mutiny. In the past, he had been content to let his "children" tear each other to shreds.

Such destruction would cull out the weak, the cowardly, and the stupid. Now that he was truly indestructible, he could afford to set his standards higher.

None of those struggling to seize power ever realized they were observed from the audience chambers on Byss. All things were weighed and considered by the Emperor. Spies moved everywhere with confidence, probing loyalty, checking for the most likely to prove worthy. Then, when the time was right, they were brought before him. Depending upon the person's reaction, the Emperor either rewarded their loyalty with a place in his new Empire or extinguished their lives. The incompetent and the recalcitrant were executed and their battalions decimated in the ancient, barbaric tradition, as a sign of his new, merciless posture. If by dying, they would make the survivors better servants, then so be it. There would always be throngs to replace them.


From (Star Wars: Dark Empire Sourcebook)

Palpatine wanted to test loyalty of his subjects to their limit and eliminate weak. Palpatine is a true genius TIER uber mastermind.

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Canon only you nitwit.


All my quotes are canon revelations.


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Hyperboles do not prove that Sidious should be banned from versuses. Actually, he should, as well, with Vitiate. The Vitiots and the Palpatiniacs are everywhere.

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Palpatine is not a mortal being, loosing physical hosts do not stop him. And his latest showings indicate that he is too potent to consider for versus scenarios.


Neither is Nihilus or Valkorion, or Exar Kun(in the novels) but we use them.
Even these three lost their bodies, but they could not be stopped. All of them survived in some way or another.

His latest showings don't indicate he is too potent for versus scenarions. It shows he was poorly written in the Dark Empire Trilogy, and that his descriptions and claims are taken out of context by most of the Sheevlings.


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I like DE Palpatine, mostly for his style. He looks fkn awesome. Still though, if he and DE Luke fought on neutral ground, without Byss or without force harmony, Luke would lose outright, as of his DE incarnation. Imo anyway.

Then we must consider that the general consensus for power levels on this forum appears to be:

1. Luke
2. Palpatine

Almost consistently, meaning that there's only one person in the entire cosmos who can actually take DE Sidious.


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Did you not see what I posted? Palpatine extinguished light side. He is impenetrable shadow, therefore light cannot penetrate him. He is also immortal, so he will never go away. If he have extinguished light side and never go away, light will not exist. You have refuted nothing.

Windu almost penetrated him but luckoly Anakin intervened. He also tried to flee from Yoda so this kind of eradicates your silly fanboyism he can't die. But wait there's more. He was killed by a one armed Vader without even a saber in his possession. A sad and pitiful death to a sad and pitiful character. Truly the Sith deserved a better send off but sometimes reality works out that way.
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Palpatine allowed himself to be defeated to have fun. Have a look:

The Emperor's confidence rested on a sure knowledge of what he had become... and what the Dark Side could do for him. He seemed open to all the possibilities of the moment: Luke's death, Vader's death... even his own death.

No matter what the outcome of this terrible confrontation, he, Emperor Palpatine, would conquer.


From (Star Wars: Dark Empire [Endnotes])

Palpatine came back anyway so none of it mattered. He have his reasons. Here:

Soon he was ready to strike. Fully healed and in greater control of the Dark Side than ever, he finally acted to end the Mutiny. In the past, he had been content to let his "children" tear each other to shreds.

Such destruction would cull out the weak, the cowardly, and the stupid. Now that he was truly indestructible, he could afford to set his standards higher.

None of those struggling to seize power ever realized they were observed from the audience chambers on Byss. All things were weighed and considered by the Emperor. Spies moved everywhere with confidence, probing loyalty, checking for the most likely to prove worthy. Then, when the time was right, they were brought before him. Depending upon the person's reaction, the Emperor either rewarded their loyalty with a place in his new Empire or extinguished their lives. The incompetent and the recalcitrant were executed and their battalions decimated in the ancient, barbaric tradition, as a sign of his new, merciless posture. If by dying, they would make the survivors better servants, then so be it. There would always be throngs to replace them.


From (Star Wars: Dark Empire Sourcebook)

Palpatine wanted to test loyalty of his subjects to their limit and eliminate weak. Palpatine is a true genius TIER uber mastermind.



All my quotes are canon revelations. [/B]
Utter nonsense. He came, he begged, he died screaming. What's truly ironic is no direct proof of the force or even a lightsaber was required to kill the little old bastard. Remember him for how he could scream all the way downnnnnnn

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Hyperboles do not prove that Sidious should be banned from versuses. Actually, he should, as well, with Vitiate. The Vitiots and the Palpatiniacs are everywhere.


All my evidence are canon revelations. They have no hyperbole in them.

Vitiate should not be banned. Great many characters have capability to beat him.

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Neither is Nihilus or Valkorion, or Exar Kun(in the novels) but we use them.
Even these three lost their bodies, but they could not be stopped. All of them survived in some way or another.


Darth Nihilus, Valkorion and Exar Kun have not shed their limitations as mortals. Darth Nihilus's state of being have him slowly an heroing, Valkorion is fake and Exar Kun is cannot sustain himself outside nexus.

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His latest showings don't indicate he is too potent for versus scenarions. It shows he was poorly written in the Dark Empire Trilogy, and that his descriptions and claims are taken out of context by most of the Sheevlings.


Nothing is taken out of context. Have a look:

The key to Luke's turning is the moment when he and Leia realize the Emperor is no longer defined by his physical form, but has become a chaotic nexus of dark energies that swell and burst open the fabric of space, tearing apart everything in the vicinity, human and machine.

Nothing can match such dark power...


From (Star Wars: Dark Empire [Endnotes])

Palpatine have official promotion as a being whose power nothing can match. What is point of including him in versus contests if nothing can match him?


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I like DE Palpatine, mostly for his style. He looks fkn awesome. Still though, if he and DE Luke fought on neutral ground, without Byss or without force harmony, Luke would lose outright, as of his DE incarnation. Imo anyway.

Then we must consider that the general consensus for power levels on this forum appears to be:

1. Luke
2. Palpatine

Almost consistently, meaning that there's only one person in the entire cosmos who can actually take DE Sidious.


Even the likes of "I" am surprised by member samappo's argumentation in favor of Palpatine.

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Windu almost penetrated him but luckoly Anakin intervened. He also tried to flee from Yoda so this kind of eradicates your silly fanboyism he can't die. But wait there's more. He was killed by a one armed Vader without even a saber in his possession. A sad and pitiful death to a sad and pitiful character. Truly the Sith deserved a better send off but sometimes reality works out that way.
Utter nonsense. He came, he begged, he died screaming. What's truly ironic is no direct proof of the force or even a lightsaber was required to kill the little old bastard. Remember him for how he could scream all the way downnnnnnn

laughing out loud


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Now shoo before I fap you with my trustworthy fly swatter.

All hail the LeGenDary Palpatine.

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He kinda looks like an even gayer David Bowie


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You dare question my authority?

"You will pay the price for your lack of vision!"

Now shoo before I fap you with my trustworthy fly swatter.

All hail the LeGenDary Palpatine.

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Dude, Sheev is a poor man's Snoke. Snoke would decimate the David Bowie lookalike who later developed bad posture.


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It must be limiting for your trolling to know that Snoke is very explicitly trying to be like Sidious in every way possible, lol.


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It must be limiting for your trolling to know that Snoke is very explicitly trying to be like Sidious in every way possible, lol.
False, Snoke wanted to kill Luke not suck his dick. Sidious wanted the man's cock at all costs while his father watched. When his father wouldn't allow this he didn't even need both hands to dispatch the weak old man.

Snoke is superior to Sidious in every single manner. Greater force power, more powerful First Order, greater wom, greater tech, etc.


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Palpatine teleports and force storms from across the galaxy tbh


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All my evidence are canon revelations. They have no hyperbole in them.


Canon revelations? You sound like a Sheevite. Yes, those are hyperboles to make you familiar with the nature of the character. It's like when Vitiate was described as a black void or something like that in the Revan novel.

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Vitiate should not be banned. Great many characters have capability to beat him.


I take it that by 'great', you mean op as f**k? The Ones, Bedlam Spirits, Nihilus, etc

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Darth Nihilus, Valkorion and Exar Kun have not shed their limitations as mortals. Darth Nihilus's state of being have him slowly an heroing, Valkorion is fake and Exar Kun is cannot sustain himself outside nexus.


Neither did Sidious. laughing That's why he needed clone bodies. Otherwise his Sith spirit would vanish. Just like other Sith, he needs a focal point to pinpoint his essence.

Darth Nihilus transferred his spirit into a holocron, Valkorion/Vitiate had Voices and could still 'live' as a spirit when he unleashed a wave of dark side energy on Ziost.
And Exar Kun, just like Sidious, needed a body too.

So, I don't see your point.



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The key to Luke's turning is the moment when he and Leia realize the Emperor is no longer defined by his physical form, but has become a chaotic nexus of dark energies that swell and burst open the fabric of space, tearing apart everything in the vicinity, human and machine. Nothing can match such dark power... From (Star Wars: Dark Empire [Endnotes])


Yes, because he is no longer 'human', he is a monster; he lost his humanity; his spirit is fully tainted with the darkness. He became a manifestation/a living focal point of the dark side. So was Exar Kun and Vitiate; even Drew wrote in the Darth Bane novels that Kaan 'seemed to be an embodiment of the dark side', a similar description was given to Malgus by Satele Shan in SW: TOR: Deceived. And these two are not on Sidious' level of power. Being a living dark side nexus has nothing to do with your personal power but rather with the dark side corroding and corrupting your 'pure' spiritual essence.

And, if you are aware with DE Sidious' abilities; you would realize that the reason for which Luke and Leia feel that Palpatine is a dark nexus is due to his power of creating Force storms by manipulating dark side energies around him(keep in mind that this is from their point of view; and they don't know how this power of creating storms works). Even, so, he is described as a dark side nexus by Luke and Leia; you see him as such through their own eyes(perception)


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Palpatine have official promotion as a being whose power nothing can match. What is point of including him in versus contests if nothing can match him?


It doesn't talk about Palpatine himself. It refers to his Force storm ability.
And he was defeated; and thus the last line proves to be false. wink


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Palpatine teleports and force storms from across the galaxy tbh


Assuming he is doing that from his personnal flagship.


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False, Snoke wanted to kill Luke not suck his dick. Sidious wanted the man's cock at all costs while his father watched. When his father wouldn't allow this he didn't even need both hands to dispatch the weak old man.

Snoke is superior to Sidious in every single manner. Greater force power, more powerful First Order, greater wom, greater tech, etc.
Kek that's cause Palpatine was strong enough to dominate him. Snoke was afraid of him and believed that only another Skywalker can kill Luke.

Also, Tempest already explained to you why First Order doesn't compare as an army.


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Not sure if Legend_PT is praising me or attacking me ... lmfao


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Kek that's cause Palpatine was strong enough to dominate him. Snoke was afraid of him and believed that only another Skywalker can kill Luke.

Also, Tempest already explained to you why First Order doesn't compare as an army.
He admits he was wrong in the film. Sidious was also wrong about turning Luke. Snoke recognizes true Jedi and wanted to kill them.

Snoke was going to kill him. Luke was hiding out on a planet waning to die like a *****.

laughing out loud

Lots of,people say lots of things. I respect those who would accept a one on one judged debate. The rest is just posturing.

At the end of the trilogy if you think you can prove the empire from the films can defeat the First Order by all means let's proceed. I imagine you don't want any part in this challenge either.


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