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True, he cannot. But as AP said in fairness, Anakin uses the force internally, making external feats somewhat irrelevant, if that's the jist of what you're saying ?
The question is whether Anakin could actually counter these external threats or not.
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Registered: Mar 2017
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@DarthAnt66 As in, if you can, provide the sources that confirm this. I wasn't aware NG [I'm presuming] labelled Anakin as approaching 10 for example.
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He lacks their mastery of the Force certainly, hence he isn't using planet rending techniques or such. But he doesn't use mastery of the Force, he wills the Force to do as he pleases. According to the 2008 Databank his power was unparallelled.
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"There’s up to eight levels. Yoda is an eight, Mace Windu is an eight, Obi is a seven, but if you miss a level, it’s a bit like taking drugs to get enlightenment.” Anakin is the perfect example of messing with the established system. “I’ve got him down as an eight or nine, which doesn’t really exist,” says Gillard, before explaining that by turning to the Dark Side, Anakin skipped some essential steps. “It’s only a writing tool,” he says, “but it gives you the edge over it just being a fight."
He's using a different scaling system here (9 being peak instead of the normal 10).
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So while there are statements saying Knightfall > RotS Sidious, there are also statements labeling Sidious the most powerful sith, so the clear answer is either it's ambiguous or that one is better in raw power (likely Vader) while the other is better overall.
That ambiguity does not translate to a win over DE Sidious, and certainly not over Luke.
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The most obvious interpretation is that Knightfall Vader beats RotS Sidious in a duel thanks to raw power, but nowhere does Lucas and co. suggest he matches Sidious in telekinesis, FL, etc. So we take the other sources' word that Palpatine is more powerful overall.
Then we're comparing him to DE Sidious who is like a walking dark side nexus that can destroy moons and Luke Skywalker who by powerscaling should be above even Wankatine.
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Luke > Sidious, yet Luke never shows the same scale of power as Sidious. Thanks for making the same argument as to why Sidious and Valkorion's showings don't make them superior to KF!Vader due to his lack of them.
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As of Operation: Knightfall, Anakin's powers are boundless without any mental handicap to restrict his potential. He's already beginning to exhibit Chosen One-esque heights when he decides Dooku will lose. You argue that may be hyperbole, in which I would agree if the text doesn't again feature Anakin willing an event into occurrence by landing the Invisible Hand - a feat deemed impossible by both Mace Windu and the narrator. The text even states how Anakin landed it only because his resolve to save his friends was greater than the Force's will, which I think frankly parallels with the Mortis arc and Anakin's overpowering of the Ones there. My perception of Anakin during this time is someone who's just rapidly expanding unlike anything we've ever seen. While he has ways to go before reaching his full potential, I see him as driving 80 MPH to the finish line during the later events of Revenge of the Sith.
For the record, I think many more sources support the idea Anakin > RotS Sidious than otherwise.
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