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It would have to be relatively short time frame, since Anakin after Mustafar would need to take Sidious' place and confront Yoda quite quickly in order to preserve what the emperor had constructed.
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I understand your rational, I am just not following it.
Palpatine is not concerned with his "legacy." He states that in Book of the Sith and that is echoed by George Lucas on many occasions. His aspirations are to live forever as an immortal God Emperor with the Chosen One lineage as his guardian. Yoda would indeed "stop him" by killing him. There's no telling how Anakin would operate the new Galactic Empire, but it's clear that both know that he wouldn't do it the same way Palpatine did - and would likely be far more unsuccessful at it. Thus, if Palpatine dies, his plan dies with him - because not only is his ultimate plan (immorality) out the window, but so is his Galactic Empire in all likelihood. I don't think Palpatine would state such an obvious bluff / lie to Yoda. If he would, then I think that further calls into question the legitimacy of Palpatine's claim concerning Anakin.
Further, I think Yoda's rebuttal ("Faith in your new apprentice, misplaced may be") doesn't make sense in the context that Yoda is responding to Darth Vader becoming supremely powerful eventually. Palpatine's faith is blatantly not misguided in the respect that Anakin will eventually become more powerful than either of them. Yoda knows he will. It makes more sense in my interpretation, in which Yoda thinks Palpatine's faith that he will defeat Obi-Wan and fully extinguish all threads to his past is possibly misguided.
Your version has too many weird issues arising. The only issue I can find presented with mine is that it's "awkward."
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Also, yes, I got the "soon" part wrong, but that calls into more questions I hadn't even considered!
If Palaptine is telling Yoda that Anakin "soon will become more powerful than either of us" and thus, even if he dies, his plan will be enacted, then by that rational Yoda should just go off and kill Anakin after he kills Palpatine. He's capable of doing that, as per you, since allegedly (and unlikely) Palpatine thinks Anakin is less powerful than either of them, and he has cause to do that if, as per you, Palpatine is passing on the torch to Anakin to complete his plan.
In other words, that statement is then, essentially, "if you kill me, Anakin's my last hope but you can kill him currently anyway" which doesn't fly.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 04:50 AM
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At this point Anakin is > Yoda easily. Without a doubt in sabers, most probably in the force.
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Ant, you're reading waaaay too much into this. Sidious taunts Yoda by reminding him that he turned Anakin who will surpass them both and carry on the sith legacy (Yoda at this point would assume Sidious is a banite sith cause why else would he recruit someone who could surpass him?) and Yoda is like nawww Obi Wan will handle him. How did you get anything about analyzing Anakin's competence as a ruler or analysis on whether Yoda can track down Vader from that?
There's nothing awkward about it, practically everyone I've seen mentioning the scene interprets it the same way and presumably Sidious and Yoda do too.
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How do I join google hangouts lol
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis
What do you guys think of Palpatine telling Anakin "are you going to kill me? I knew you would"
Also Luke.
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I know what hangouts is, just didn't know how to join yours xD
Nah I'm not a paranoid retard, I'll pm you my email when I've got a chance.
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No point even voting now, Luke takes the number 1. spot by authority of his immense lead.
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis