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The two characters who receive the most votes will advance to #1B to decide #1.
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Valkorion 18 27.69%
Palpatine 11 16.92%
Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader (pre-suit) 11 16.92%
Luke Skywalker 24 36.92%
Other (comment below) 1 1.54%
Total: 65 votes 100%
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1/2/2018 - #1A (Ranking ONE, Round ONE) - Most Powerful Character Tournament - VOTE!
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Pessimystic
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Well this could seriously be anyone's game then...

- Anakin has the most potential so I guess he could be picked for that reason.
- Valkorion's best showings are greater than everyone's here (imo) but his lowest are the worst.
- Luke is certainly supposed to be the most powerful with all his accolades, and Palpatine is Palpatine.


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DarthAnt66
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Originally posted by samappo
No point even voting now, Luke takes the number 1. spot by authority of his immense lead.


I guess, but it gives a good gauge on how many members participate.

There's no need to do a run-off, though.

Luke will likely (99%) take number one spot with overwhelming majority.


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Valkorion


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I voted KF Anakin as the rules are peak combative performance, which for him is deciding to win and the ability to oppose and reverse the will of the force.


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Probably Luke.

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Shortly before RotS Dooku force pushed Anakin and Obi-Wan backwards with 1 hand while also knocking over a dozen people, with them actively trying to block it. Anakin is being wanked to a absurd degree based off of the novels hyperbole and Nick Gillards unofficial statements.

Knightfall Anakin has no defense against Valkorion just mind****ing him. Valkorion is far greater as a Force User and can defeat Anakin handily through any number of ways. Anakin also has no hope of employing his mythical "Level 10" duelling skills against someone who can freeze time and block lightsaber attacks with his bare hands.

Luke would also handily beat him. The dude has beaten gods and routinely faces absurdly powerful beings. The best person Anakin beat in Knightfall was frickin Cin Drallig for christssake.


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How is Palpatine not winning? And now Valkorion fangirls are creating fake accounts? Bias is strong.


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Lol @ TCW lowballing. You might want to look up the 'Outer Rim Sieges'.


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Unless Anakin really did double in power (lol), I hardly see how it would matter.

TCW is canon even to Legends, like it or not.


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All TCW performances should be taken with a grain of salt, otherwise Hondo stalemated Anakin, some pirates were too good for Dooku and 2 random death Watch soldiers stomped Kenobi.


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I see nothing wrong with that.

TOR, the OT, the ST and all other eras also have non-force sensitives fighting Jedi and Sith effectively. Why should the PT get a free pass?


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Oh, so you concede Arcann getting his ass handed to him by the smuggler, Vaylin failing to overpower the smuggler with a Force Maelstrom, and Valkorion's essence being damages by the non-Force sensitive Lord Dramath and permanently obliterated by the smuggler's TP are all 100% valid showings? Hmm, I guess Han Solo TP's Valkorion to death then.


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A Non-Force Sensitive Outlander's feats are valid, yes.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66

He's the Force-made-flesh Christ figure whose will determines reality,
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Hyperbole much?

Also, I love how everyone's subscribing to Anakin's tier ten status and ignoring that in the final version of things, his status as a tier 9 puts him virtually on par with Yoda and Sidious(it's up to styles and enviroment). So even if the tier 10 thing still rings true, the gap is marginal, and this applies to a pre-prime version of Sidious.

Him being far more dangerous is a result of his potential, not a result of being far more powerful than Yoda or Sidious.

Sidious is explicitly stated to have multiple power growths from his ROTS incarnation, how can you substantiate that Anakin's marginal edge over Yoda/ROTS Sids is bigger, even assuming it exists?

And this isn't even considering that Sidous is a far more versatile force user than Anakin is with various abilities Anakin can't even dream of.

What is the argument for Anakin here?

While I consider Anakin a more powerful force user and signifcantly better candiadate, at least with Valkorian, he isn't restricted by direct comparisons to Sidious.

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Also, I love how everyone's subscribing to Anakin's tier ten status and ignoring that in the final version of things, his status as a tier 9 puts him virtually on par with Yoda and Sidious(it's up to styles and enviroment). So even if the tier 10 thing still rings true, the gap is marginal, and this applies to a pre-prime version of Sidious.

Him being far more dangerous is a result of his potential, not a result of being far more powerful than Yoda or Sidious.


Not one of these sentences make sense.

The rest is more-or-less what we've been discussing about here / GH.


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A Non-Force Sensitive Outlander's feats are valid, yes.


Arcann gets blitzed by Zett Jukassa, a random PT Jedi can walk through unchained Vaylin's attacks and Han Solo stomps Valkorion. Concession accepted on all of those.


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You haven't played TOR, huh?

Valkorion makes the Outlander an immensely powerful Force User shortly after their first fight with Arcann. Even a Smuggler is a top tier force user after that. And the Outlander defeats Valkorion due to them being literally in their mind, which they have full control of (along with a host of other reasons).


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Not one of these sentences make sense.

The rest is more-or-less what we've been discussing about here / GH.

Explain why these sentences don't make sense to you. What don't you get?

Anakin is a tier 9, Yoda is a tier 9, and ROTS Sidious is a tier 9. Tier 9's are on par and as a result it's styles and enviromental factors that decide who would win between the three.

There's absolutely nothing suggesting any significant gap between Anakin and ROTS Sidious. Sidious choking Dooku from across the galaxy is more holistically impressive than Stover's hyperbole. As they are virtually on par as duelists, and there are even quotes suggesting Sidious is >, logic would dictate they're close to each other.

In order to prove Anakin to be >DE Sidious, you have to substantiate that the gap between Anakin and Sidious is greater than the gap between DE Sidious and ROTS Sidious.

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As you noted, tier 9s are relatively around the same capacity. Issue is, Anakin isn't just a tier 9 - he's a tier 9 that is tapping in and out of tier 10 (similar to Mace, but on the opposite side between 8 and 9). Thus, based on that, Anakin ranges from on par with them to being substantially - arguably vastly (by virtue of increasing differences across tiers the further up) above them. As per conditions listed in OP, that highest setting would be how Anakin is operating in here.


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As you noted, tier 9s are relatively around the same capacity. Issue is, Anakin isn't just a tier 9 - he's a tier 9 that is tapping in and out of tier 10 (similar to Mace, but on the opposite side between 8 and 9). Thus, based on that, Anakin ranges from on par with them to being substantially - arguably vastly (by virtue of increasing differences across tiers the further up) above them. As per conditions listed in OP, that highest setting would be how Anakin is operating in here.

Anakin was a ten on a different tier system. Not on the finalized version where he is simply stated to be a nine. In the finalized tier system, tier 10 doesn't exist. Anakin is simply a nine and the notion of him being >>Yoda or Sidious remains wholly baseless.

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