It-it's a forgivable mistake to make, in the heat of the moment! The apostrophe usually indicates possession, so the fact that the possessive form of it is its is counter-intuitive! Right? Right!?
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A long time ago - before the the names such as DarthAnt66, Emperordmb and Carthage made their mark in this section of KMC, I was prominent for championing Revan (2006 - 2013), up against the likes of Gideon (Escape81), Lightsnake and Lord Lucien. Several members would seek my input while debating Revan here in KMC (DarthAnt66 also - initially) due to my knowledge and communications with His Holiness the Drew Karpyshyn back then.
I used to argue that Revan was not using grenades in his fights, and was not relying upon his team members to defeat individuals of note, based on whatever bits and pieces of information I could amass at the time. That Revan was stronger than Darth Sion, Darth Traya and the Jedi Exile.
I was the voice of reason (and logic) in regards to Revan for so many years but a few heretics bestowed me the crown of KMC's greatest Revan fanboy; Lord Lucien was first. Nevertheless, I found an unexpected ally in Nephthys in these trying times.
I shifted my attention to Vitiate in 2013, and DarthAnt66 filled the vacuum for championing Revan in KMC. DarthAnt66 did a splendid job in championing Revan due to his impressive debating skills; his crowning achievement is the ultimate Revan Respect Thread.
When I shifted my attention to Vitiate, I created the first and most information-rich Vitiate Respect Thread in the original SWTOR forums (2013), then KMC (2013), and an even better one in ComicVine (2014), and scores of people consulted these threads for relevant information from time to time to facilitate their debates - many will not admit this tho. Nevertheless, XSUPREMEXSKILLZ and AncientPower have exercised original thinking in regards to promoting Vitiate since 2017. AncientPower is an entity in itself now. However, me and Nephthys shaped TORite movement with our collective contributions.
I also popularized Darth Bandon with my arguments, to the point that Darth Bandon became synonymous with memes of strength in KMC for a while. Hilarious.
Lightsnake commenced Sheevites movement in KMC? - a revolutionary movement which brought an end to the reign of the antediluvians in KMC. Notable members of this movement include Gideon and ShootingNova. Gideon became the face of this movement for a long time until he passed the torch to YOU.
Under the shadow of Sheevites, some held their ground in regards to championing the ancients on the whole in KMC. Nai was a formidable presence in regards to championing ancients up to Exar Kun. StealthMoose and Nai were a notable duo for a while in fact. Nephthys also made his mark while debating in favor of ancients but he was prominent for championing KoTOR II characters and Darth Bane in particular.
The tone of discussions (and debating environment) began to shift once again in this section of KMC, with new arrivals in 2013 and later. Debating standards improved from this point on wards. Carthage played a vital role in undermining the reputation of Darth Bane in KMC (Bane dies movement) - poor Nephthys and Emperordmb.
What I disclosed above, is from my perspective, based on what I recall at the moment. There are additional members who made their mark in this section of KMC from time to time; Q99 among them. Some members have changed their names and/or got banned and rejoined with different names, so my memory is hazy.
This to be honest.
Although I would count Nephthys.
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The members who should have influenced this forum for the better kept their mouths shut.
The only members who have ever had some influence are: Tempest, Sinious, and Beni.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Even if you think LeG is a bad debater [Objectively speaking he is] at least he's not overly hostile and he gets points for putting effort into his posts.
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"We stand on a tipping point where we can choose chaos, or order"
-Jacen Solo
He isn't a bad debater. In fact, he is one of the most competent debaters around here on both sides - Sheevites and TORites. Well, had it not been for his Vitiate and Revan bias, of course, he would get more praise.
Other notable members: Sun Razer and Nai.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Most of these (old) members have shown, over these past years, great difficulties in text comprehension and a disdain for independent thinking.
The only hope is: Legend, you(perhaps), and Quan(reboot Star Wars generation-wise)
Other than that, the forum went down hills.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Lol. Imagine being the Silver-type who uses no reasoning whatsoever, and instead blurts out basic sentences from sourcebooks and palms them off as actual arguments.
You have great knowledge about Star Wars, in general, LeGenD. That is not even up for discussion.
I think what hurts your debating ability is that you tend to make fabulous claims that are not quite supported by the quality of the evidence you provide. Perhaps you would be more successful if you spent more time reading your own argument vis-a-vis with the evidence you are providing, without assuming anything in particular but just analyzing "what can be concluded or argued from evidence(s) x", and then polish it further in a general format to bring it to the table.
Bear in mind that I'm not a specialist in anything, it's just my perception after reviewing some discussions involving you and it might be completely inaccurate.
You are stretching it and twisting my words. What most people lack is text comprehension. As RealistRacism said: you shove quotes in members' faces without analyzing them(date of publishing, philosophy of author, author's perception of characters and events)
Can you utilise accolades in a thread?
Absolutely.
Though, you need to take in account the context of said-so statements. The author never deviates from his/her story.
Usually, when there are absolute accolades, you find the argument somewhere in the source, either further in the story or the other way around.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Thank you for this meaningful feedback. Much appreciated.
I believe that I have my share of poor judgements. I look back and notice some statements which were in poor taste or poorly constructed - I could do better then that.
Another thing was that I was not aiming for something big. I narrowed my focus to some favorite characters and would habitually argue in their favor without realizing that I cornered myself to a loss at times.
I also noticed that certain members would continue to argue even in the face of a solid argument or resorted to insulting which killed any chance of progress at times - like we could get somewhere in a debate but the opponent was not being flexible.
Mixed situation.
But memories are there, and I enjoyed sharing my views with all of you. Even those who despise me.
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