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The Ultimate Darth Plagueis Essay
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Ursumeles
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Excellent read, but the insectoid : human math is strange.


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Excellent thread, all hail Hego.


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Excellent read, but the insectoid : human math is strange.


Thanks, but how so?


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Thanks, but how so?
You assume that the rate of sentient insectoids is comparable to the insect : human rate on earth.


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In regards solely to power and destructive capability, Vitiate/Valk are above Plagueis, but in regards to combat, Plagueis is better just because he's way more well rounded. Not saying I think he could best Vitiate, but in a general sense, Plagueis is a better combatant. I find that to be a reasonable middle ground.

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You assume that the rate of sentient insectoids is comparable to the insect : human rate on earth.


That's only because we don't have more precise estimates. It's just a way to provide a rough picture of the amount of organisms Plagueis would have touched with his mind.


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In regards solely to power and destructive capability, Vitiate/Valk are above Plagueis, but in regards to combat, Plagueis is better just because he's way more well rounded. Not saying I think he could best Vitiate, but in a general sense, Plagueis is a better combatant. I find that to be a reasonable middle ground.


How is Valkorion more powerful and possessing of more destructive capacity again?


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An excellent essay. Well done. thumb up

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An excellent essay. Well done. thumb up


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Very well-sourced and interesting to read.


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Gracias.


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I used to argue for Sidious and Plagueis once upon a time. Extensively.

I can't remember the last time I did that. Azronger is taking the later Banite Sith hype to new heights. Great job( for whatever I saw, I didn't read it fully).

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Nice.

I might write a separate shorter essay on his Saber capabilities, since I feel they are vastly underrated.


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How is this taking it to new heights? It was just a lot of info everyone already knew compiled into one thread.


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How is this taking it to new heights? It was just a lot of info everyone already knew compiled into one thread.

Yeah, this is just one big Plagueis wankfest. Nothing new here.

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Look at all these people who never say anything interesting ever saying this great thread isn't interesting. Nothing like the smell of projection in the morning!


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Look at all these people who never say anything interesting ever saying this great thread isn't interesting. Nothing like the smell of projection in the morning!


Lol yeah there hasn't been a single actual rebuttal to anything Azronger said.


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How is Valkorion more powerful and possessing of more destructive capacity again?
As you mentioned in the thread, his draining of Ziost, which he did while in a severely weakened state, and seemed to do with little to no difficulty. That's a planet level feat performed at significantly below full power, on top of that, he was one-shotting small ships through the Outlander during Arcann's invasion of Asylum.

Plagueis doesn't really have anything suggesting he has the ability to perform planet level feats all on his lonesome, and that's supported by the fact that he has never come close to doing so.

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As you mentioned in the thread, his draining of Ziost, which he did while in a severely weakened state, and seemed to do with little to no difficulty. That's a planet level feat performed at significantly below full power, on top of that, he was one-shotting small ships through the Outlander during Arcann's invasion of Asylum.

Plagueis doesn't really have anything suggesting he has the ability to perform planet level feats all on his lonesome, and that's supported by the fact that he has never come close to doing so.


As Azronger pointed out, Plagueis can't possibly do Ziost without alerting the Jedi Order to his presence. That's why his feats are so subtle, but when you view them carefully they're far more profound than Valkorion's IMHO.

Case in point: Vitiate with a thousand years of work makes the Dark Temple and maybe DK into a stronger nexus, while Plagueis and Sidious with a month of meditation tip the entire f*cking galaxy to the dark side and make the Force create Anakin in retaliation.


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