I have no idea what you're talking about. The force of Yoda's blows have made Dooku buckle, and the Count's fought off some pretty strong adversaries.
Case for Revan being "well within" Yoda's speed? I'm not sure what you define that as.
Once again, I'm skeptical of teleportation because it just hasn't made a difference in the vast majority of SW fights where it's been in play. Normally teleportation doesn't seem to be straining (see Jadus, An'ya Kuro, etc), yet characters clearly appear to have limited applications of it, especially in a fight. I don't see why it's an exception here. History literally shows us that it's not a get out of jail free card.
As for "in the midst of lightsaber swings", I have no idea why you think that's impressive. That's against opponents far slower than Yoda. If I swung a baseball bat slowly enough, I'm sure you could take the rubbish bin out and back before I finished swinging. It's all relative. I'd like to see him doing it in the midst of Yoda's swings.
The extra fluff about frozen statues is irrelevant. Obviously if you slow down someone's perception of time people are going to look slow/motionless to you.
Regardless, it seems that unless Yoda is hosting Valkorion's spirit, his perceptions of time won't be affected (surely someone with more power than Valkorion would be exempt from it in the same way as with any other Force power, too).
As for Heskal, what do you mean? How is that different from DS you attacking Arcann after accepting Valkorion's power? It just means the entire conversation with Valkorion takes place in an instant.
If his powers were anything like what you suggest, he'd have just frozen time and killed both Arcann and the Outlander together in Chapter 1. Surely he wouldn't even need to have the Outlander around or indulge Arcann's many swings?
Every Force user already sees things in slow motion relative to their own combat speed, lol. There's no external difference when Valkorion uses his power. Hence I'm of the belief that he won't even attempt to use it in combat, as he knows it's useless here.
Based on precedent, Valkorion's ability to affect perceptions is purely for exchanging thoughts with his host, not external attacks. There's no difference.
Not really. You accept Valkorion's power without time changing. By the time there's an actual attack, time has gone back to normal.
Which is natural for something that doesn't actually affect time.
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That's on your video, which I've just looked at. AP's one doesn't even go up to twenty minutes.
Anyway, I watched all of AP's video and I didn't see it once. He's affecting his host's psyche, that's it. Completely useless in an external battle.
It's late now. Gotta be off, but it's been good knowing that Valkorion's "time stoppage" won't ever be used in combat, as it's not even a combat power. lol
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If Yoda's in midair he won't be able to properly put pressure on Valkorions barrier since he won't have anything to press back against and it'll do little. Also Arcann's overpowered people like the Wrath who's immensely strong.
Revan's had extensive fights against groups of extremely fast individuals. As has been recently pointed out even Marr was capable of moving so fast he appeared to teleport to Darth Lachris. Yet Revan was keeping up with a BM-amped Marr plus 6 other powerful combatants including the protagonist. Plus theres the fact that novel Revan had an entire duel with Vitiate inside of a few seconds. Both Revan and Valkorion grew immensely in power after that point.
Teleportation would only be used to create distance to maintain a Force fight or if Yoda is actually pressuring him with his lightsaber (which itself is unlikely). Such a trivial application of it is easily within the bounds of the ability, which has been used far more practically. Revan uses it in the midst of pitched battle easily.
You were suggesting that its not an ability that can be used quickly. But it is, it can be used as quickly as any other power. Valkorions own immense speed and reaction time mean that he'd be more than capable of using it against Yoda.
Gosh, if only I had actually just said that. Thanks for explain that for me, I hadn't quite got it.
As I said, I'm purely arguing for its use in supplementing Valkorions own reaction time to deal with Yoda's supposedly superior speed.
It means that he can both move and attack in stopped time, or at the very least he can attack at the exact instant he resumes regular time such that its indistinguishable.
Of course he could have easily killed Arcann and the Outlander in Chapter 1. The whole point was that he wasn't taking it seriously and got surprised. AP and I already proved that Valkorion can both use his power (charge it, manipulate it etc) and attack in stopped time.
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