If he's fighting serious, no, they can't take him. 98% of the people can't budge him and honestly, he has only been using a portion of his power so far.
Maybe if Hit traps Jiren in his time cage thing straight away and the biggest guns go after him immediately before he breaks free... Otherwise, yeah, the ToP will taste no victory from him.
Jiren can barely handle Goku and Vegeta, the entire ToP beats him easily.
The humans alone could do it.
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But Jiren wins only beucase it's not a mastered UI Goku. When we see UI Goku (even if still not completely match for Jiren), still ToP destroys Jiren, even if he goes all out.
He stood in one spot and allowed Vegeta in Blue form to pound on him and you're mentioning Anil, Frieza, and Kefla like they'll make a difference. Jiren stomps this if he is serious. The guy is matching an amped Vegeta and Goku right now with no issues.
It sort of depends what happens next episode, but as of now Jiren wins.
ASSB Vegeta and SSB Goku /w/ KKx20(each of whom are implied to be more powerful than UI Goku was when he fought Jiren the last time) are barely capable of moving Jiren; let alone beating him. Everyone else in the ToP amounts to little more than fodder by comparison, tbh.
...And according to Belmond, Jiren is still only using "A HINT" of his full power, lol.
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The way Vegeta and Goku are being portrayed now is just retarded, not only they get stronger like every damn minute but they cant be put down for good cause they just keep coming back.
As I mentioned in another thread: this episode implies that Goku's power has increased by more than 20x, in the 17 MINUTES since he first fought Jiren.
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Goku got his stamina drained like 7 billion times he should be pretty much dead by now, yet he is stronger then ever and Vegeta almost died like 2 minutes ago but he got up and unlocked a more powerful form.
The ASSB form was a stupid/random asspull from Toei.
I also lol'd at Vegeta's 'trigger' for ASSB. It wasn't the thought of saving/protecting his wife and children. No, it was the thought of keeping his promise to a kid from an alternate universe that he's only met twice, cuz Saiyan bonds run deep or sumshit. Stupid.
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If Toppo really is GoD level, he should tip the balance with this team.
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Jiren is broken as f*ck. UI might be the one to tip the scales though. We don't know how he will compete at full power. If it is current UI then everybody gets crushed. I mean hell, he is fighting with a "hint" of his power. This is insane if true. We have no reason to assume it is not true either.
Jiren hasn't really dodged anything to believe it's UI, he just tanks everything.
I think he's just that powerful, that it takes something exotic and near unobtainable even to gods to beat him.
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-UI Goku isn't a thing right now.
-ASSB Vegeta seems about equal to current SSB Goku /w/ KKx20.
-Toppo definitely isn't Hakaishin-level right now.
-LSSJ2 Kefla is absolutely nothing, per current power-scaling.
-Aniraza is absolutely nothing -- SSB Goku /w/ KKx10 or 20 could have logically owned him with ease.
-Hit is not allowed to use killing techniques in the ToP.
-Golden Freeza is absolutely nothing -- he is about equal to [pre-ToP] base SSB Goku(w/o KK.)
As I mentioned above: we'll have to see what happens next episode, but right now it looks like SSB Goku /w/ KKx20 + ASSB Vegeta are just strong enough to push Jiren back, but they're not even remotely close to 'beating' him. At this juncture the others just aren't close enough to Jiren's level to make a difference, imo... And that's just the current/heavily suppressed Jiren, mind you. I predict that a 'full power' Jiren will have even the Hakaishin crapping their pants in disbelief -- I am getting more and more convinced that he is considerably above even Beerus, tbh. /shrug
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