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Haschwalth
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The amount of energy from that feat is inferior to Thons ambria feat/Nihilus's drain etc.

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Thon's ambria feat which took place over decades.


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Thon's ambria feat which took place over decades.

Where does it say, that It took decades?

even Yaeral poofs feat is comparable, in terms of energy.

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Anyway he seals the energy in the lake meaning he had the energy at the time to contain it.

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Ulic annhilates Kyp.

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Kyp >>> Brakiss >>> Thon


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Old school categories:

1) Sabers
2) Force
3) All-out

So Kyp has an edge in the Force.

Who takes sabers and all-out?

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Did Kyp really move a singularity or, in fact, the Dovin Basal? Think about it.


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Where does it say, that It took decades?

even Yaeral poofs feat is comparable, in terms of energy.
I might be misremembering, but I thought it was mentioned that it took time for Thon to clean up the "dark side stains" left over from the ritual. I had a look through the companion and the comic and it's quite vague, but this is basically what Thon did:

Ambria ritual goes t!ts up, kills all life on planet. Only the spirits of the dead are left alongside "dark side stains" across the planet. All Thon did was go into a lake and "surrender to the dark side," and then trapped some spirits in the lake. Presumably he also cleaned up these "stains" the sorceress left over. It said that it took time for the natural life on the planet to grow back after the devastation, in-part due to Thon's presence on the planet, which is why I think I mentioned that it took Thon time to clean it up.

Nowhere is it said he bottlenecks a planet's worth of dark side energy. Not even close. It was a similar deal to how Yoda lived next to a dark side nexus on Dagobah; he wanted to challenge himself.

The feat's been blown out of proportion from what I can tell.


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Did Kyp really move a singularity or, in fact, the Dovin Basal? Think about it.

"And he[Kyp] seized upon that void, directing all his Force abilities and discipline against it.

It was like using a thin metal rod to push a grounded landspeeder. Too much pressure and it would bend, becoming useless. Too little and nothing would happen. He had to find the right pressure to budge it, to set it into motion and keep it going that way...

For a moment, the only things in the universe were him, Jaina, and the void. He moved the void, turned it around, moved it back the other direction.
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-- New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dreams

He moved the singularity.


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I might be misremembering, but I thought it was mentioned that it took time for Thon to clean up the "dark side stains" left over from the ritual. I had a look through the companion and the comic and it's quite vague, but this is basically what Thon did:

Ambria ritual goes t!ts up, kills all life on planet. Only the spirits of the dead are left alongside "dark side stains" across the planet. All Thon did was go into a lake and "surrender to the dark side," and then trapped some spirits in the lake. Presumably he also cleaned up these "stains" the sorceress left over.

Nowhere is it said he bottlenecks a planet's worth of dark side energy. Not even close. It was a similar deal to how Yoda lived next to a dark side nexus on Dagobah; he wanted to challenge himself.

The feat's been blown out of proportion from what I can tell.


Also, Obi's feat of resisting a planetary Dark Side nexus caused by a Rule of Two Sith is quite frankly a better feat than this.


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Originally posted by Stigma
So Kyp has an edge in the Force.

Who takes sabers and all-out?
LMAO


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smile

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Originally posted by ILS
I might be misremembering, but I thought it was mentioned that it took time for Thon to clean up the "dark side stains" left over from the ritual. I had a look through the companion and the comic and it's quite vague, but this is basically what Thon did:

Ambria ritual goes t!ts up, kills all life on planet. Only the spirits of the dead are left alongside "dark side stains" across the planet. All Thon did was go into a lake and "surrender to the dark side," and then trapped some spirits in the lake. Presumably he also cleaned up these "stains" the sorceress left over. It said that it took time for the natural life on the planet to grow back after the devastation, in-part due to Thon's presence on the planet, which is why I think I mentioned that it took Thon time to clean it up.

Nowhere is it said he bottlenecks a planet's worth of dark side energy. Not even close. It was a similar deal to how Yoda lived next to a dark side nexus on Dagobah; he wanted to challenge himself.

The feat's been blown out of proportion from what I can tell.


http://i.imgur.com/cDYhBy4.png

This indicates Thon trapped the dark side energies from the Ritual, into the lake.
And the stains were merely damaged inflicted from the Darkside, not the actual energy.

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http://i.imgur.com/cDYhBy4.png

This indicates Thon trapped the dark side energies from the Ritual, into the lake.
And the stains were merely damaged inflicted from the Darkside, not the actual energy.
Which is in direct contrast to both the TotJ companion and the comic itself, or more accurately, is a poor summation of the events. The feat happens in two parts:

1. He traps dark side spirits in a lake
2. He cleans up the dark side corruption left over from the ritual


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Which is in direct contrast to both the TotJ companion and the comic itself, or more accurately, is a poor summation of the events. The feat happens in two parts:

1. He traps dark side spirits in a lake
2. He cleans up the dark side corruption left over from the ritual

I would like the quotes, and source material thanks.

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I like this new debating culture where you just take one sentence out of context because it fits your argument neatly, and try to pass it off as something far more grandiose than what it really amounts to. Mad funny.


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Originally posted by Haschwalth
I would like the quotes, and source material thanks.
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I like this new debating culture where you just take one sentence out of context because it fits your argument neatly, and try to pass it off as something far more grandiose than what it really amounts to. Mad funny.


Within the context of that page it isn't.
Hence why I want the full context, from what you have stated.

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If you've read the comic you will note that the lake is filled with spirits, as indicated by that fact the text box is the same as when spirit Nadd speaks. But the companion tells us all we need to know:

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He swam into the middle of the lake and trapped some spirits. Jee wizz.

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Here it mentions the dark side stains.


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