He has UI, just not MUI (he fought 6 GoD together and was said he could even destroy them... far more than just fighting Jiren, but ok that was in manga). MUI Goku might be a better fighter than Beerus, but Beerus would catch up with Goku MUI with raw speed and power and would destroy him.
I'm trying to figure out how dodging is UI? I can post Namek saga Goku dodging, does this give him UI as well? Is there anything else showing Beerus or stating Beerus have UI?
Beerus was fighting other Hakaishin there... ALL of them simultaneously. Until Jiren went full-power, Goku never fought anyone remotely close to Hakaishin-level at the ToP.
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Negatory. Beerus broke free of Mosco's hold on the following page, proceeded to slap a few more Hakaishin around, and then finally launched an attack that could have evidently killed ALL of the other Hakaishin had Sidra(who can manifest THE most powerful barriers in the multiverse) not saved them all at the last second.
The implication is that Beerus' UI(incomplete as it is) still gave him a huge advantage over all the other Hakaishin.
I'm hoping the manga better-clarifies where guys like Jiren and GoD-Toppo actually stand in relation to true Hakaishin, like Beerus and the others. The anime hasn't really done that yet.
As of now, this is my current ranking:
MUI Goku > [limits surpassed Jiren(???)] > FP Jiren ~ Beerus ~/> n00b-UI Goku(third reveal) >>> ASSB Vegeta(emotion boost) >> Hakaishin-Toppo >> ASSB Vegeta(standard) = SSB Goku /w/ KKx20 >>>>> everyone else at the ToP.
*Obviously 'limits surpassed' Jiren is the biggest unknown, because we haven't seen him in action yet. Him aside, I feel pretty comfortable with my ranking... If you take personal bias of of the equation, the anime hasn't really indicated that it should be any different, imo. /shrug
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