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No he's not. He doesn't even know ultra instinct


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He can use an incomplete version of UI.

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Since when was incomplete version above the mastered form? He hasn't achieved even regular Ultra Instict for that matter not even close.

He was willing to give the nod to Goku for mastering it.


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No he's not. He doesn't even know ultra instinct


He has UI, just not MUI (he fought 6 GoD together and was said he could even destroy them... far more than just fighting Jiren, but ok that was in manga). MUI Goku might be a better fighter than Beerus, but Beerus would catch up with Goku MUI with raw speed and power and would destroy him.

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Goku could fight all 12 an beat them. Goku has more power as he caught and flicked away the most powerful attack to date.


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He can use an incomplete version of UI.

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I'm trying to figure out how dodging is UI? I can post Namek saga Goku dodging, does this give him UI as well? Is there anything else showing Beerus or stating Beerus have UI?


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None. These noobs just invented the idea that scene means he has some form of UI.


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Goku could fight all 12 an beat them. Goku has more power as he caught and flicked away the most powerful attack to date.


Zeno didn't even like that exhibition match because of brutality, he has no problem with Goku and Jiren or with anything in ToP.

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I'm trying to figure out how dodging is UI? I can post Namek saga Goku dodging, does this give him UI as well? Is there anything else showing Beerus or stating Beerus have UI?
Because Whis said that's what it was:

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None. These noobs just invented the idea that scene means he has some form of UI.


That's dumb. Dodging doesn't = UI.


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Still that's pretty meh seeing how even noob UI Goku hasnt been tagged... not even once....


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Wut?

Beerus was fighting other Hakaishin there... ALL of them simultaneously. Until Jiren went full-power, Goku never fought anyone remotely close to Hakaishin-level at the ToP.


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He got caught in the end....stick out tongue

UI should make you untouchable...


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Still that's pretty meh seeing how even noob UI Goku hasnt been tagged... not even once....


Very true, he's never been hit


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He got caught in the end....
Negatory. Beerus broke free of Mosco's hold on the following page, proceeded to slap a few more Hakaishin around, and then finally launched an attack that could have evidently killed ALL of the other Hakaishin had Sidra(who can manifest THE most powerful barriers in the multiverse) not saved them all at the last second.

The implication is that Beerus' UI(incomplete as it is) still gave him a huge advantage over all the other Hakaishin.


Here is the entire scene from start to finish for anyone who still hasn't seen the whole thing:
https://i.imgur.com/xETUaqQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/r0Tr0Rb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BdVKgWd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6QFUnEA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5BK4u1R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kK1wfUg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rIB0x7S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/scE9cLd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/U3XF2GM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nHdESbZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KW0d2lY.jpg


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Manga Beerus should easily beat both Goku and Jiren in this case...

We would need to see them against GODs I mean we know they could defo beat 1 but 2 or 3 once?


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I'm hoping the manga better-clarifies where guys like Jiren and GoD-Toppo actually stand in relation to true Hakaishin, like Beerus and the others. The anime hasn't really done that yet.

As of now, this is my current ranking:

MUI Goku > [limits surpassed Jiren(???)] > FP Jiren ~ Beerus ~/> n00b-UI Goku(third reveal) >>> ASSB Vegeta(emotion boost) >> Hakaishin-Toppo >> ASSB Vegeta(standard) = SSB Goku /w/ KKx20 >>>>> everyone else at the ToP.

*Obviously 'limits surpassed' Jiren is the biggest unknown, because we haven't seen him in action yet. Him aside, I feel pretty comfortable with my ranking... If you take personal bias of of the equation, the anime hasn't really indicated that it should be any different, imo. /shrug


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Some people denying that Beerus has any capacity of UI? My Zeno, the lowballing.


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Wut?

Beerus was fighting other Hakaishin there... ALL of them simultaneously. Until Jiren went full-power, Goku never fought anyone remotely close to Hakaishin-level at the ToP.


Toppo and Jiren are Hakaishin level. Don't know where this came from.


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Toppo and Jiren are Hakaishin level. Don't know where this came from.


Toppo is a candidate.


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