I think for all intents and purposes Zod is completely equal to Superman in strength and abilities. Obviously they fight a bit different, but I have severe doubts one would beat the other by overpowering the other. One would win by techniques and intelligence. Maybe Superman throws off Zod by doubling up his jab, maybe he just overwhelms him before Zod gets into it. Maybe he uses his powers smarter to win. Whatever the case, I find it hard to believe that Zod will be portrayed as a lesser than Superman.
And that's what you're left with, a pretty much exact Superman clone that fights a little different. Do we believe Thor with an axe poses an immediate danger to Superman? Do we believe Zod has never seen a ****ing axe before in his life? You could swing an axe at a toddler and the stupid thing would know to stay away. I think it's pretty apparent Thor could cause damage to Zod, to what degree is anyone's guess. Maybe if he headbutts it he can cleave his skull in two. But it's not like Zod can't hurt him with a punch. It's not like Zod can't knock it away.
Jarn is a great weapon when things are running headfirst into it. How great is it when someone with superspeed doesn't want to get hit with it? Yeah if Zod stood there telling Thor to hack his neck off, Thor would win everytime. And if Thor stood there telling Zod to punch his heart out Zod would do just as well as Thor, who ****ing cares what Thor can do to a statue though?
Zod wins each and every time. That's not even pretending Zod just starts going lightspeed. That's just assuming he doesn't want to be hit by a giant ****ing axe.
Somebody has to swing their big dick around here in a sea of bias.
Also I started reading comics again a few weeks ago and finally felt like talking about them again. I probably read more in the last week than I did in the last 3 or so years. It's that spark Carver gets when he sees a freshly soiled diaper.
I would agree, Thor's maneuverability is incredibly limited without Mjolnir in comparison to Zod, except Thor specifically has his Thunder God powers back. It's an entirely different ball game. He's not facing Non with an axe. He's facing a grounded Thunder God who can barrage the shit out of him and has a weapon that could gut him. It makes it far more competitive.
Also, I seriously doubt anyone is implying Zod would stand still and let Thor hit him. The entire discussion started with the bullshit claim of it not doing much to him. But he can, and has gotten struck many times. Whether out of arrogance or not utilizing his speed effectively because comics. Regardless, it happens.
Also, welcome back bro. Abhiligend was out here claiming he ran you off.
Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Feb 9th, 2018 at 09:23 PM
Key word is grounded. At least with Mjolnir he had shields, a hammer that kept coming back and let him effortlessly blast shit without leaving him open, and superspeed, etc.
Him spamming lightning at Zod might as well make him a GL with clipped wings though.
I believe I said I was leaving at 60 a couple months beforehand, now I'll need a nice even number again to make my way out again. It's the internet, even if I was made to look like Carver it's not really going to effect my decision to post or not.
Marvel being general crap for years ran me off from reading comics though. Now there's some little black girl smarter than everyone ever that's really not my thing, among so many other things. I actually saw the Mangog bite on another site and that led me to start reading comics again. It was neat, how is the rest of the series? Shit apparently.
Speaking of, Jane is going to beat Mangog, I hope you're ready with your excuses of why it's not really that bad.
Also worse than that, I started reading DC or more precisely, Superman and I kind of like it. No black or women Superman, no agendas. Just comics being what they should be, comics.
That makes no sense. How is he like a clipped GL? Zod can punch Kyle in the face and ruin his day. If he punches Thor in the face, he's getting a punch right back or an axe into his gut. And heat vision spamming from a distance isn't enough to win this fight. If Thor hits Zod with his lightning, it would hurt. Especially, if it is considered mystical. A big bolt would ground him. And Thor can radiate that shit.
Jane Thor is terrible man. Just terrible. The worst part? It's not hard to make it decent. Aaron's a good writer relatively speaking and he has amazing artists. He has to actively push his agenda to make it shit.
Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Feb 9th, 2018 at 09:54 PM
I think Aaron is complete shit though. He only writes good when he focuses his efforts on only Thor centric things... or Odinson I guess, because his ****ing name isn't Thor Odinson... the second he brings an outside character in the story turns to trash. The only exception is the King Thor vs Galactus fight, but that might just be because of the art... all of it might be.