NewGuy01
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What feat has Revan accomplished that is superior to defeating Vaylin at her most powerful?
with help from valkorion, senya, and arcann tho
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Feb 7th, 2018 11:59 PM
Geistalt
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Arcann and Senya didn't do jack sh!t, except maybe help defeat the Skytroopers and Horizon Guards.
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Feb 8th, 2018 12:10 AM
AncientPower
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Valk even says the Outlander is the only one strong enough to defeat her.
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Feb 8th, 2018 12:25 AM
The Ellimist
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Didn’t some source label the Outlander Valk’s most powerful foe?
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Feb 8th, 2018 12:58 AM
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Yes. swtor.com.
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Feb 8th, 2018 12:59 AM
Haschwalth
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1. Revan
2. Vaylin
3. Outlander
4. Revan
5. Revan
6. Vaylin
7. Revan
Feb 8th, 2018 09:26 AM
Haschwalth
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Funnily enough that quote should apply to Arcann as well, start of KOTFE Outlander>Arcann kek.
Not to mention Revan cannot be applicable to the quote anyway, because he is dead.
Also growing stronger means shit, when it's unquantifiable, and is their any quote stating that he does?
Feb 8th, 2018 09:29 AM
Rockydonovang
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quote: Didn’t some source label the Outlander Valk’s most powerful foe?
Doesn't apply to Revan
Feb 8th, 2018 09:53 AM
Geistalt
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Then the Outlander was obviously still dealing with carbonite sickness when he lost to Arcann. Unless it wasn't Chapter 1-9 Outlander that the quote calling him Valk's greatest enemy was referring to.
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Feb 8th, 2018 09:56 AM
Haschwalth
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Geistalt
Then the Outlander was obviously still dealing with carbonite sickness when he lost to Arcann.
Did you even play KOTFE?
By that answer, no.
Feb 8th, 2018 09:57 AM
The Ellimist
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Doesn't apply to Revan
Why not?
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Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Ellimist
Why not?
It's in present tense and at the time, Revan was dead.
Feb 8th, 2018 10:02 AM
Nephthys
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Hmm, I was going to clear this up and prove that the quote does indeed not include Revan but I'm not so sure now:
Valkorion has lived for millennia, using his dark mastery of the Force to assume many forms. His latest incarnation is Valkorion, the Immortal Emperor of the Eternal Empire. After ruling for centuries, he was struck down in an act of treachery engineered by his son, Arcann. But the Immortal Emperor could not be vanquished so easily. He evaded death by infiltrating the mind of the Outlander, his most powerful opponent. He now appears to the Outlander as an apparition, offering guidance and harsh lessons while carrying out a master plan that remains shrouded in secrecy.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: Official Profile)
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Haschwalth
Also growing stronger means shit, when it's unquantifiable, and is their any quote stating that he does?
The Outlanders growth is readily apparent since they go from losing to Arcann, to beating Arcann, to losing to Vaylin, to beating a stronger Arcann, to beating a far stronger Vaylin.
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Feb 8th, 2018 11:45 AM
Rockydonovang
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quote: Valkorion has lived for millennia, using his dark mastery of the Force to assume many forms. His latest incarnation is Valkorion, the Immortal Emperor of the Eternal Empire. After ruling for centuries, he was struck down in an act of treachery engineered by his son, Arcann. But the Immortal Emperor could not be vanquished so easily. He evaded death by infiltrating the mind of the Outlander, his most powerful opponent. He now appears to the Outlander as an apparition, offering guidance and harsh lessons while carrying out a master plan that remains shrouded in secrecy.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: Official Profile)
The context of the statement would include Revan.
Feb 8th, 2018 01:10 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nephthys
to beating a far stronger Vaylin. [/B]
After Valkorian shielded the Outlander from her initial attack.
Feb 8th, 2018 01:11 PM
Nephthys
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?
I don't see Valkorion shielding them. In fact he's also staggered back and temporarily disrupted.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The context of the statement would include Revan.
Perhaps. Its a lot more arguable than I thought though.
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AncientPower
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Nothing implies that at all, he just warns the Outlander she isn't done yet.
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Feb 8th, 2018 01:18 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nephthys
?
I don't see Valkorion shielding them. In fact he's also staggered back and temporarily disrupted.
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https://youtu.be/qfVbzVVHmZQ?t=12s
You could argue that the Outlander was the one who made the shield, but I don't think I've ever seen the Outlander do that kind of thing himself, only Valk.
You could also argue the Outlander was caught off guard, but that doesn't really change that he didn't deal with the whole of Vaylin's attack.
Feb 8th, 2018 11:59 PM
AncientPower
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That was clearly the Outlander, Valk gets BFR'd back to the shadow realm.
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Feb 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Nephthys
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
You could argue that the Outlander was the one who made the shield,
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
but I don't think I've ever seen the Outlander do that kind of thing himself, only Valk.
You think the Outlander lacks basic force shield abilities? Uh, no. The base classes have demonstrated it and so has the Outlander against Arcann. It's also like, a standard ability so....
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