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Outlander vs Revan vs Vaylin vs Arcann
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FreshestSlice
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Either way, the Outlander is visibly knocked into the air, which doesn't make sense if Valkorion's protecting them, which was discussed yesterday I might add. Valkorion is also pushed back by said attack, and even if that weren't true, the first wave was hardly the strongest part of that attack as it's visibly cracking the wall well after everyone is blasted away.

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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Either way, the Outlander is visibly knocked into the air, which doesn't make sense if Valkorion's protecting them, which was discussed yesterday I might add. Valkorion is also pushed back by said attack, and even if that weren't true, the first wave was hardly the strongest part of that attack as it's visibly cracking the wall well after everyone is blasted away.

Vaylin has overpowered Spirit Valk before.

Anyway, if someone can show me Outlander doing that shield thing in another fight, I'll concede abd get the outlander movement revamped on CV

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What shield thing? The Barsen'thor and Darth Nox both use Force shields in their Act III battles against the First Son and Thanaton.


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Force barriers are pretty basic to make.


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The pruple shield thing we see at 0:12

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Skillz tells me that the Outlander has never made a purple shield before. Purple is the color they use for Valk

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Only time Outlander utilized dark barriers in a similar fashion was against Arcann, which one could also argue was done by Valkorion. After all, Outlander seemed surprised when the lightsaber strikes by Arcann were harmlessly bouncing off of him, and the fight really wouldn’t have been as close as it was if Outlander could harmlessly, effortlessly block Arcann’s lightsaber strikes all the time.


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Yeah, it's obvious it was done by Valkorian, Outlander's been debunked.

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Which was a boon of power gifted to him by Valkorion. It isn't Valkorion himself who just get blasted away.


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
[B]Vaylin has overpowered Spirit Valk before.

No, she broke out of a stasis filed he made. She's obviously not stronger than Valkorion, since he fights her, Arcann, and the Outlander solo. erm
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Anyway, if someone can show me Outlander doing that shield thing in another fight, I'll concede abd get the outlander movement revamped on CV

He does it several times against Arcann, and hell, the Barsen'thor does the same thing in the base game.

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Only time Outlander utilized dark barriers in a similar fashion was against Arcann, which one could also argue was done by Valkorion. After all, Outlander seemed surprised when the lightsaber strikes by Arcann were harmlessly bouncing off of him, and the fight really wouldn’t have been as close as it was if Outlander could harmlessly, effortlessly block Arcann’s lightsaber strikes all the time.

Argument is still stupid, unless you have an explanation for why Arcann can't sense Valkorion during the fight. It's really not arguable at all.

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Sense is inconsistent as hell in TOR, tbh.


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No, she broke out of a stasis filed he made. She's obviously not stronger than Valkorion, since he fights her, Arcann, and the Outlander solo. erm

He does it several times against Arcann, and hell, the Barsen'thor does the same thing in the base game.

He did not do it vs Arcann, that was clearly Valkorian. Arcann realzing Valk was helping him when the Outlander was suddenly saved by a barrier he didn't gesture to make wasn't a coincidence.

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Re: Outlander vs Revan vs Vaylin vs Arcann

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1. Outlander vs Revan

2. Outlander vs Vaylin

3. Outlander vs Arcann

4. Revan vs Vaylin

5. Revan vs Arcann

6. Vaylin vs Arcann

7. All out free for all



Revan, solidly, if not semi-easily.

Vaylin, if she goes insane like she did in the game. Otherwise, Outlander.

Outlander, closely.

Revan, close-ish. Vaylin can contend in the Force, via her raw power, but Revan far outstrips her in mastery and swordsmanship.

Revan, solidly, if not semi-easily.

Vaylin, same as with the Outlander vs Vaylin round.

Revan wins it, closely.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Hmm, I was going to clear this up and prove that the quote does indeed not include Revan but I'm not so sure now:

Valkorion has lived for millennia, using his dark mastery of the Force to assume many forms. His latest incarnation is Valkorion, the Immortal Emperor of the Eternal Empire. After ruling for centuries, he was struck down in an act of treachery engineered by his son, Arcann. But the Immortal Emperor could not be vanquished so easily. He evaded death by infiltrating the mind of the Outlander, his most powerful opponent. He now appears to the Outlander as an apparition, offering guidance and harsh lessons while carrying out a master plan that remains shrouded in secrecy.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: Official Profile)



The Outlanders growth is readily apparent since they go from losing to Arcann, to beating Arcann, to losing to Vaylin, to beating a stronger Arcann, to beating a far stronger Vaylin.


That quote thinks, The Outlander is >Arcann(which is retarded considering the events of KOTFE), also in possible context, it assumes the Outlander suddenly becomes, several magnitudes stronger than SOR Outlander, which is highly unlikely, considering the events occur within the same year, 3637 BBY/ 16 ATC.


It's flat out stupid, also taking into consideration, about Revan's greatest Hero, quote. which Slayne has pointed out.
As the Outlanders achievements>Revans(Obviously), which was stated after the Events of KOTET.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Vaylin has overpowered Spirit Valk before.

Anyway, if someone can show me Outlander doing that shield thing in another fight, I'll concede abd get the outlander movement revamped on CV




14.12. One of the few times a barrier has blocked lightning.



34.10



45.

This is a retarded thing to have to prove. Force shield is among the most basic of force powers.

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Skillz tells me that the Outlander has never made a purple shield before. Purple is the color they use for Valk


Vaylin's power is purple, not the Outlanders shield. Theres no indication of Valkorion blocking anything and he outright states that he can't do anything to help you 2 seconds later.


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