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cass could predict the moves but if she can't touch her, no counters are going to matter. not sure how cass can win this if kitty isn't neutered. and kitty is extremely skilled in h2h, def one of the best x-men. but cass would demolish her in straight h2h.
Cass is pretty fast. I'm sure someone can show Kitty phasing through bullets and such, but Cass has some feats that put her on par with a low end speedster.
Per example:
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Whoops, wrong scan. That's against a speedster, btw.
Here it is:
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It's an old and famous scan. Notice how she's weaving in front of another bullet in each panel?
That's like a scene out of The Matrix.
Fast enough to cross the distance and KO Kitty before she can phase? I dunno.. probably not.
There's another scan where she leaves a Flash like speed trail and a lot of bodies, but I can't find it at the moment.
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IMO, Cass is quite a bit faster. More in line with Spider-Man (Who does things like nailing Sue with webbing before she can react to raise her shield, and she was trained by Cap.)
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I've had the same talk pertaining to other characters, and I'm not in the school of thought of taking street levelers feats against bullets as anything resembling mathematical interpretations, otherwise many of them would be supersonic, which is absurd.
So while I'm ok with saying Cassie dodges bullet-times with much greater ease than any street leveler and scaling up to their relative speed, I won't say that makes her able to move 500m in 1 second or so...even though it should.
As for the thread, unless Cassandra pulls an electric batarang or something, given kitty's vulnerability to those types of attacks, she doesn't really have anything she can do.
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AFAIK, despite still having superhero reflexes, Kitty's only reflexes that are on Matt's level relate to phasing.
But building off what Phil said, Cass would need other exceptional speed feats before I would put her anywhere near Parker. He has speed feats of all different varieties to build a more comprehensive picture of his degree of super speed.
We all agree Danny would beat Kitty, right? (RW doesn't count.)
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Priest called his son Kraven, so any reasonable person unfamiliar with the character would assume he's Kraven.
And which rule?
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