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The Ellimist
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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Not really. It was a f-ucking mirror.


lol a much simpler way to put it than I did, but this works thumb up


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
To add on, as per DC, the energy shields of hex droids apparently can bend lightsaber blades pretty easily.


Can you elucidate as to the significance of this?

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Freedon Nadd
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That lightsabre bend isn't a godly feat. And rightfully, so.


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The whole, "we never saw Kun shoot lighning at a lightsaber" defense is only one that works if you're willing to accept "we never saw Ventress attempt a planetary ritual."

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The whole, "we never saw Kun shoot lighning at a lightsaber" defense is only one that works if you're willing to accept "we never saw Ventress attempt a planetary ritual."


Yeah notice how Ant's current arguments have nothing to do with his original sh*tpost.


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Would you be willing to try and quantify Sidious's lightning feat?

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Would you be willing to try and quantify Sidious's lightning feat?


When we talk about TKing Blackholes, razing planets, Manipulating star fire, it comes up as insignificant.

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Would you be willing to try and quantify Sidious's lightning feat?


On dark side nexuses, it is capable of reducing people to bones(e.g: Kalakar Six)


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The whole, "we never saw Kun shoot lighning at a lightsaber" defense is only one that works if you're willing to accept "we never saw Ventress attempt a planetary ritual."


Those two are hardly comparable. Happy Dance


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On dark side nexuses, it is capable of reducing people to bones(e.g: Kalakar Six)


Aleema Keto tier then?


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The accolade-ic lore surrounding Darth Sidious is full of discrepancies, mainly, because writers would take different paths with this character. Feat-wise, his Force lightning wasn't even capable to turn Kadir and his allies into ash or bones(this happened on Coruscant)
Windu received Sidious' full power and he wasn't turned into a charred husk either. Same for Darth Vader. That only happened when he was on Kalakar Six and on Byss(IIRC). And, no, just because you create a dark side nexus that does not mean you do not get benefits from it. After all you(darksider) are boosted by dark side energy: dark side energy is dark side energy.

When Sidious executed that ritual(in Sithisis); he had a Sith(?)crystal that magnified his power to planetary levels, take into account the fact that he was also amplified by those Sith(?) or dark side spirits that he summoned through the use of the crystal.

His feat on Vjun with his mere presence causing lightnings is not a feat(when he talks to Dooku). Nowhere it is confirmed that was a feat, it is a poetic description to represent Sidious' malevolent personality. that's why it contains the words: "as if". But to Sheevites, as if=yes, exactly.

Darth Sidious' knowledge isn't infinite, nor did he study the Force in all its guises either despite the Dark Empire End Notes suggesting that. He was sick and needed the ancient Sith Lords' services. So, that accolades falls shortly.

The Lusankya feat isn't combat applicable either. And Sidious didn't actually TK'd anything. This source, posted by Azronger:
"Once completed, the Emperor himself used the dark side of the Force to hide the Lusankya beneath the surface of Coruscant's cityscape."
-An Expanded Universe Starship from Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand (Book 12 of Star Wars: The New Jedi Order)

Considering the fact that he mind-fogged the Coruscant citizens around there, so they could not find out the truth, and ordered his imperials to bury it, per another source. Palpatine did hide the ship beneath the surface because he mind-fogged the Coruscant people and he was the one to give the order.
It's just like saying that Hitler attacked Russia and broke the alliance treaty. Hitler doesn't attack Russia, but he represents the command of the attack. And so is in Palpatine's case.

Sidious also didn't escape Chaos on his own. He was guided back by some Sith spirits.

https://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn....amp;oe=5A889327

So, these Sith spirits on Korriban were able to go into Chaos and take Palpatine back. So, Sidious' feat of escaping from Chaos falls shortly.
If you ask why they did it is due to the fact that Sidious was the main antagonist in Dark Empire(and he was the last Sith during that time frame)

And before anyone saying: Palpatine, so powerful OMGZ! All Jedi spirits were needed to send him back into Chaos. Yes, it is true, and for logical reason. Not because Palpatine was a lesser dark side demi-god, but because the dark/Sith spirits would only bring Sidious back. Though, after the Sith re-appeared, the Sith spirits didn't give a second chance to Palpatine.

Side note: I wondered if Dark Empire Palpatine was the 'real' Palpatine who died at Endor. I know that Timothy Zahn hated his Reborn. I always asked myself if Dark Empire Palpatine wasn't some twisted dark side aberration of the ancient Sith but with Palpatine's memories, yadda, yadda. We know that they were able to go into Chaos and rescue Palpatine, so they may be able to interact with the real world too. I would have loved so much if the Dark Empire Palpatine was some sort of 'mirror' of the real Palpatine created by some Sheevites who wanted, so much, their emperor back.


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