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yeah this is ridiculous kek
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__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Finally you admit it. I could be retarded to say Kaan>Bane. However, from Bane's mouth seems that Kaan=Bane. Whatever, blame Drew Karpyshyn. And stop calling people 'retarded', it is so uncivilised.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Yep. I just hate people calling each other 'retarded' for petty reasons. I mean, Az has enough experience with it but there are people who like him so far.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Ok. But seriously Bane would beat Kaan in a fight. He already defeated the Brotherhoods greatest warrior in Kas'im and practically laughed in Kaans face when he tried using the Force on him. He'd beat Kaan pretty badly.
Kas'im expertised himself in lightsabre combat, not Force abilities. Besides that, he also didn't know about Bane's improved lightsabre skills. On top of that, Bane solo'd through Force use, not lightsabre combat.
Shortly: Kas'im wasn't ready for this type of Darth Bane.
As about Kaan, for all the power he possessed, he was just a coward when it came about fighting. Men can be powerful and still be afraid when they have little faith in their own power. Bane saw this trait in Kaan, and that's why he wanted to pwn him in that particular scene.
Just how Bane could resist his Force influence, so did Kopecz. That's why I find it stupid as to why Az uses this as an example to gauge Bane's power.
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Kinda lazy to do full thing ATM, but for starters:
"An army of 20,000 of Lord Kaan's most devoted Sith followers, the Brotherhood of Darkness fought the Army of Light at the Battle of Ruusan. The brotherhood lost all but two of the seven titanic battles on Ruusan, reducing the army to a tenth of its original size."
So, 2,000 (not millions, lmfao) of Kaan's "most devoted Sith followers" joined Kaan with the thought bomb. This applies to the "I didn't expect" feat you cited also. Further, Kaan didn't dominate these people. If you just read the text, Kaan "was joined by the rest of the Brotherhood" in the mind vortex of the thought bomb. That is what Githany struggled to pull away from - the combined force of 2,000 Sith joining minds and power - not just Kaan's power alone.
Note that these 2,000 were so weak that apparently a 100 Jedi could have beaten them. The Brotherhood was trash.
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As for Kaan contacting all his Sith followers, it's really impressive but greatly aided by the fact all his followers are fervent supporters of his cause. Obviously Kaan isn't going to be able to compel 1/50th of the Jedi army to rush to his side. Plus, a random Sith acolyte saying Kaan is summoning them all is hardly proof that Kaan outright contacted all of them at the same time, nor do we know the circumstances of how Kaan did the feat (could have easily been in deep meditation for weeks to do it, lol).
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Last edited by Jaggarath on May 1st, 2018 at 12:32 AM
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Location: The Throne of the Sheevites
Source and scan, please. And also reasoning why we should take this over the other evidence saying their numbers are much greater.
Provide the full quote for context. "Was joined by the rest of the Brotherhood" doesn't contradict the idea of Kaan dominating them at all. He states he is powerful enough to join to their minds, and the text says he was speaking through Githany at one point. I also recall Farfalla saying something about Kaan having sovereignty over their minds.
Or maybe the 100 were just strong? What's you're evidence for them being weak?
The point about unknown circumstances is the most fair one, I feel. I wonder why you're such a vehement supporter of Ziost though, then. Mind finally sharing that evidence for the death field being of Vitiate's own power?
To be honest - if Kaan had as much Sith followers as you claim. Then, he'd win the Ruusan War.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
The numbers killed by the thought bomb has changed over time. Most earlier sources or sources referring to Kyle Katarn and Jerec mention an absurd amount of trapped spirits; Jedi vs Sith, Path of Destruction, and contemporary sources are a lot more tame. Feel free to rationalize this by saying thousands of more Jedi and Sith journeyed to the site and were swallowed by its power over time, but my numbers take priority over yours since they are newer (2008 vs 2005) and more consistent (the amount of Sith killed believed battle against a mere 100 Jedi was suicidal).
Your dumbass has the quote on the first post.
I have no clue where you even got the idea that Kaan dominated their minds. It is so utterly absent from the text that I went and checked Chinese, Google-translated adaptations of the novel and still found nothing remotely resembling your claim. All of the Sith join hands, then chant the beginning of a Sith ritual to merge their minds with Kaan. Note that the Sith willingly allowed themselves to be merged with Kaan, and this was only possible by way of ritual regardless. As the chanting continues, their mind and power merge into the vortex that eventually becomes the thought bomb.
What? That's twenty Sith fighting one Jedi. If Kaan's even a fraction of Valkorion's power, he should just outright solo most of the army - Revan killed "hundreds" of dark Jedi on Korriban alone. With your suggestion of 24,000, that's 240 Sith per one Jedi - making each Jedi an army-buster of the highest sort. As for their strength, Hoth takes no interest in the Jedi's strengths when choosing. In fact, its suggested he considers bringing the 100 freshest reinforcements.
Everything I said is fair and true, not that you've ever been the great arbiter of fairness.
Great shift. How about you concede to me that your dumbass thought Kaan mind dominated 24,000 Sith while in actuality he only helped guide 2,000 willing and fodder Sith to merge minds by reading instructions written by Revan?
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Last edited by Jaggarath on May 1st, 2018 at 12:25 PM