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MrMind
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why are people pretending thor have good fighting skills

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Feb 15th, 2018 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by riv6672
Things have gone nicely in this thread today. Sweet. Good reading.

Actually my point was, when a poster basically said Supes is faster/Supes will win, is thats a faulty argument (Supes isnt a speedster, and even speedsters dont just get autowins in my book).
By all means, give him the win if you (not you in particular but posters in general) must, but at least be better at the why of it.

Your Angela example's been refuted so not rehashing that.
It was, though, a good example. You usually give good, agree w. you or not.

As was Wolverine.

Strange how no one has so far responded to that.

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As was Wolverine.

Strange how no one has so far responded to that.

I think people assume that it�s just a low feat on his part

Considering he has fought and defeated �quicker� opponents

Would you agree with this logic?

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As was Wolverine.

Strange how no one has so far responded to that.

To?

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Originally posted by Philosoph�a
Oh, good, you're back to this.

Battlezone invitation.

Superman without any weapon, with a hand behind his back, against Thor with an adamantium sword.

Only melee, no HV/Lightning etc.

Good to go?

Marvel fans will never admit it but DC 'heralds' are a step above because of the crazy LEGIT super speed combat feats they have. IMHO, lightening or no lightening (Superman will just outspeed it), he'd destroy Thor in a sword fight if speed wasn't equalized. Skill won't save Thor (who I actually believe is the better fighter because of his upbringing).

Superman wins.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As was Wolverine.

Strange how no one has so far responded to that.

It wasnt worth addressing, any more than Supes winning this via his speed (which he uses on this site more than he ever does in comics) when facing someone of comparable strength with much greater skill.

But you know, go ahead and address it. wink

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It wasnt worth addressing, any more than Supes winning this via his speed (which he uses on this site more than he ever does in comics) when facing someone of comparable strength with much greater skill.

But you know, go ahead and address it.

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Originally posted by riv6672
Agree to disagree.
You can argue p/cis all day, but those feats (where speed definitely dies NOT kill) are canon.
Add to that the fact that Supes is not even a speedster (a character that consistently moves at SS as its his main power) but instead a character with super speed, who consistently fights in non SS mode.
I originally posted that if this thread took off, Supes would be KK level within 2 pages. I was mistaken.
Instead posters are trying to give him the (undeserved) win via him suddenly being FlaSuperman.
So, like i said, agree to disagree.

So to put it another way, like it or not, Wolverine, a street leveller, is too fast for Thor. Argue PIS or not, it's canon.

No one here equated Supes with Flash, except you. You equated Flashs low showings (being stabbed by street levellers) with Superman.

Despite Superman being shown on the same page with reacting to a highly trained, speeding herald leveller. With a magical sword no less.

And it actually being THOR who has been stabbed by street levellers.

Moreover, despite Superman not fighting like a speedster in 90% or whatever it is of his fights, we have a clear mod ruling that in fact, he DOES possess it, and he WOULD use it.

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Feb 15th, 2018 11:01 PM

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So to put it another way, like it or not, Wolverine, a street leveller, is too fast for Thor. Argue PIS or not, it's canon.

See, thats the thing, DS.
I'm not arguing, you are.
Supes has had showings just as bad as the Wolvie one.
Which is why the speed argument holds no truck with me.

But wow, you're bringing in the mods now (dad said so).
So next either i get a BZ invitation, or a mod mysteriously appears soon and tells me to stay on topic or some such.
Classy. laughing

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xJLxKing
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I can�t recall a street level EVER being as fast as Superman

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Originally posted by riv6672
See, thats the thing, DS.
I'm not arguing, you are.
Supes has had showings just as bad as the Wolvie one.
Which is why the speed argument holds no truck with me.

But wow, you're bringing in the mods now (dad said so).
So next either i get a BZ invitation, or a mod mysteriously appears soon and tells me to stay on topic or some such.
Classy.

Erm neither.

I hardly report people,and If I do, I say it up front.

Not sure why it's so wow?

First you attempted to insinuate something with my choice of signature, without fully knowing the context, then you attempt to call me out when I...mention the rules? OK.

Reason I mentioned it is because you're not the first, nor the last to be mistaken in your 'Superman fights like so in X% of his comic fights, therefore his forum fights will also have the same percentage'.

It just shuts down that avenue of error quickly, and speeds things along.

As for BZ challenges, I hardly do those as well. You obviously have me mistaken for someone else.

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@JL King...

Shadow Dragon is the answer to your question.

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
I can�t recall a street level EVER being as fast as Superman

Batman.

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So to put it another way, like it or not, Wolverine, a street leveller, is too fast for Thor. Argue PIS or not, it's canon.

No one here equated Supes with Flash, except you. You equated Flashs low showings (being stabbed by street levellers) with Superman.

Despite Superman being shown on the same page with reacting to a highly trained, speeding herald leveller. With a magical sword no less.

And it actually being THOR who has been stabbed by street levellers.

Moreover, despite Superman not fighting like a speedster in 90% or whatever it is of his fights, we have a clear mod ruling that in fact, he DOES possess it, and he WOULD use it.

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xJLxKing
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman.

Speed was never a factor

Batman has the "I don't give a shit" aura active at all times

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Originally posted by carver9
And Shadow Dragon is to fast for Superman.

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And yes, he is street level. The guy lost to Shiva.

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Do you accept this Darksaint?

Does it make you feel clever, when you jump into an argument half cocked?

Rivs point: no matter what, we should accept showings. They are all in a canon comic.

DS' point: actually,there are some showings that shouldn't be. But f we accept all showings, why, Thor has been tagged by street guys!

Carver: shiiiiit, I've read like 20% of the post, here's the Shadow Dragon scan I've been itching to post! Carver my boy, today's the day you show everyone what a sharp stick you are!!!

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman isn't hulk who does not knows how to fight at all. He has been trained and knows how to wield a sword.

Yet Hulk excelled at sword fighting in Planet Hulk.

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Yet Hulk excelled at sword fighting in Planet Hulk.

Did he now?

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about you idiot?

You disagree with what I said? Which part? The Angela cherry-picking or the irony that she is an example of Thor easily fighting (Even getting the advantage over) someone who's just as fast as Superman in combat 90% of the time, with greater skill?

Angela is as fast as Superman 90% of the time?

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are we going to ignore that Thor fought an upgraded Angela equally in their third fight?

Or the fact that Angela, is also, much more skilled with a blade than Superman and probably the greatest combination of skill/speed Thor has ever encountered? She's a female Wolverine with crazy speed* and herald level stats.

If anything, Angela is an excellent example of Thor demonstrating amazing speed/reflexes with even more impressive skill and evidence that Thor would stomp Superman unless he starts utilizing his speed in a way that would make Abhilegend happier than clean drinking water. I.e. in a CBR fashion.

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She fought a Thor, an exhausted Thor, who had no desire to fight.

*She actively countered the Disir's first strike who were specifically noted to be faster than thought, lightning and everything else. How fast does that make her? Flash level? Definitely faster than any character in Marvel I can think off of the top of my head in terms of fighting reflexes. But I guess it's in fighting bursts, not consistent, similar to Wonder Woman.

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Originally posted by Philosoph�a
Oh, good, you're back to this.

Battlezone invitation.

Superman without any weapon, with a hand behind his back, against Thor with an adamantium sword.

Only melee, no HV/Lightning etc.

Good to go?

Well rage, are you going to accept this or not?

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