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abhilegend
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Originally posted by zopzop
Are you referring to this :
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If so, the showing means nothing because years later Magneto had a rebirth of sorts and his power was increased.

This is false. Magneto has been depowered because he was drawing too much power before he was turned into a child.

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Originally posted by carver9
Magneto shields has withstood attacks from Celestials and an angry Phoenix. Don't think it has ever been breached. Thor isnt breaking through it. The guy just struggled to break through a random shield and you think he can break through Magneto shields. That's funny.

Except Iron Man has breached his shields.

http://i.imgur.com/TUE8Tpv.png

Not for the first time either.

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+1.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+2.jpg

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Feb 17th, 2018 06:43 AM

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Mags was weakened in the first one.

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abhilegend
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This is the funniest though.

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abhilegend
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Mags was weakened in the first one.

No, he was back at full power by using MGH in Axis.

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Originally posted by carver9
Magneto shields has withstood attacks from Celestials and an angry Phoenix. Don't think it has ever been breached. Thor isnt breaking through it. The guy just struggled to break through a random shield and you think he can break through Magneto shields. That's funny.

I'll gladly battlezone that.

Magetos shields vs Thor's attacks

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Iron Man has breached his shields.

http://i.imgur.com/TUE8Tpv.png

Not for the first time either.

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+1.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+2.jpg

His shields are up? And I'm sure he was not at full power during the time of your scans as well. First scan, I don't even think that was Magneto (well, his body but mind controlled).

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This comes down to whether Thor lighting can mess with Mag's shields. I see his metal axe and metal arm more a detriment than them being favorable for him.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Iron Man has breached his shields.

http://i.imgur.com/TUE8Tpv.png

Not for the first time either.

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+1.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploa...s+shields+2.jpg

Are you arguing in favor of Thor?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
This is false. Magneto has been depowered because he was drawing too much power before he was turned into a child.

http://imgur.com/wJ2qcwY.jpg
http://imgur.com/OP0NTlf.jpg

Double false! big grin

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"Far stronger than before." That's from the same story arc if I'm not mistaken.

Also there's this :
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"My process was a failure, Magneto -- effective only so long as the subject never used their mutant power. The structures of mind and body have t' be aligned a certain, specific way for those powers t' operate, in harmony so t' speak wi' yuir essential character. That's why you all have such indomitable wills. No matter how deeply ye're brainwashed, each use o' yuir powers reverts you to yuir natural, default state. "

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How is Magneto's shielding trumping Thor's lightning for a greater percentage than Thor's own innate strength would enable to keep his arm from being thrown around. And, I also don't see how that's an automatic win.

Magneto's power isn't greater than Thor's physical strength and neither is his force field for Asgardian lightning.

Lightning is charged particles. By the very nature of Mags shields they block lightning no matter how much charge. The stronger the charge then the stronger the repelling force. This is how Earth's magnetic field works. Let's light in but blocks gamma and other strong charged particles.

Thor can't grab on to the ground with his feet. What's stopping Mags from lifting him? There is no way in hell Thor can compete here.

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Double false!
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"Far stronger than before." That's from the same story arc if I'm not mistaken.

Also there's this :
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"My process was a failure, Magneto -- effective only so long as the subject never used their mutant power. The structures of mind and body have t' be aligned a certain, specific way for those powers t' operate, in harmony so t' speak wi' yuir essential character. That's why you all have such indomitable wills. No matter how deeply ye're brainwashed, each use o' yuir powers reverts you to yuir natural, default state. "

Magneto has gotten two upgrades. The first one was when he was grown up back to adulthood, thus healing both his mind + body [basically, all the Silver Age craziness was retconned as Magneto's powers affecting his brain from too much usage] and the second one was when he was nearly killed on Avlon in X-Men #1-3 IIRC and then returned more powerful than EVER before in Fatal Attractions.

Furthermore, the Joseph arc made it clear that Magneto is even more powerful than that, but he subconsciously has limits, so as not to burn out his body.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by carver9
His shields are up? And I'm sure he was not at full power during the time of your scans as well. First scan, I don't even think that was Magneto (well, his body but mind controlled).

Uh-huh. Don't try to talk when you have no idea what are you talking about.

It was inverted Magneto on MGH who was at his full power.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by zopzop
Double false!

"Far stronger than before." That's from the same story arc if I'm not mistaken.

This happened because just before that arc Magneto had absorbed Zaldane powers and was amped.

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Also there's this :

"My process was a failure, Magneto -- effective only so long as the subject never used their mutant power. The structures of mind and body have t' be aligned a certain, specific way for those powers t' operate, in harmony so t' speak wi' yuir essential character. That's why you all have such indomitable wills. No matter how deeply ye're brainwashed, each use o' yuir powers reverts you to yuir natural, default state. "

She is talking about his mental state and that he made his own choices.

The genetic modifications were still present in his body.

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Magneto was never made more powerful than his old self.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Philosophía

Magneto has gotten two upgrades. The first one was when he was grown up back to adulthood, thus healing both his mind + body [basically, all the Silver Age craziness was retconned as Magneto's powers affecting his brain from too much usage] and the second one was when he was nearly killed on Avlon in X-Men #1-3 IIRC and then returned more powerful than EVER before in Fatal Attractions.

Furthermore, the Joseph arc made it clear that Magneto is even more powerful than that, but he subconsciously has limits, so as not to burn out his body.

Magneto was amped in Fatal Attractions by Fabian Cortez IIRC.

He never received any power up when he was turned into an adult. It was opposite actually.

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Telekinetics affect and control everything.

I suppose there's no getting through their shields now

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abhilegend
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Magneto is silver surfer of mid tiers. So much lip service and hardly anything to show except scattered feats through the decades.

He hasn't beaten a genuine top tier in well over a decade now.

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zopzop
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Originally posted by abhilegend
This happened because just before that arc Magneto had absorbed Zaldane powers and was amped.

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She is talking about his mental state and that he made his own choices.

The genetic modifications were still present in his body.

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Magneto was never made more powerful than his old self.

He also isn't weaker. He's at his physical prime.

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Feb 17th, 2018 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Magneto is silver surfer of mid tiers. So much lip service and hardly anything to show except scattered feats through the decades.

He hasn't beaten a genuine top tier in well over a decade now.

I know you hate Silver Surfer but cut that out comparing him to Mags.

Plus Surfer just backhanded away a bunch of animal characters including Beta Ray Bill in SG. stick out tongue