I'm not trying to compare the feats. It's just that in one showing where he was amped, he effected entire Earth's magnetosphere without an issue and later needed a machine to do that.
It's just to show the amp was temporary.
In this case, Joseph was exact duplicate of Magneto and was only more powerful than Magneto because he lacked the mental blocks all high powered mutants do.
If Magneto was more powerful than before, that shouldn't be possible because Joseph=base magneto without the restraints.
That was only regarding the mental state of the characters. Fabian Cortez found the genetic modification in Magneto's body years later.
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And even If Magneto reverted back to his original state, how does that makes him more powerful? He should be as powerful as before.
He was more powerful because he had drained Zaldane of her powers in uncanny 275.
I'm not trying to attack anyone here. Just showing what's actually happened.
In the first feat, he sent an EMP. In the second, he merged with the magnetosphere. These are two different feats. Just because he did the first, doesn't mean he could do the second at the same powerlevel. And just because he used a machine for the second, doesn't mean he is less powerful than the first.
You're using this to show he was depowered. You can't. Your comparison doesn't make sense. You have to see this.
Joseph was copied from Magneto after X-Men #1-3 and Fatal Attractions [i.e. with all of Magneto's power-ups in place]. Again, abhi, you're confused about the chronology.
Since Joseph was all-out Magneto [i.e. body-burning], he was apparently more powerful than Magneto, who was not willing to go to that extent. It's literally Jeph Loeb's Supergirl compared to Superman.
All of the scans I showed you of him being more powerful than Silver Age OldNeto are far before he ever met Zaldane.
The genetic alterations didn't work, once he started using his powers. Moira directly says it. We have Magneto, in actual person, saying that he is more powerful. We have him actually doing feats that he explicitly says he couldn't do, ever since way back one of his first appearances in X-Men #4.
Stop arguing it, seriously, it's crazy. You have direct statements and demonstrations from Magneto that he is more powerful than before.
Start reading from Uncanny X-Men #104, and move up. Go to his first confrontations with the X-Men after his rejuvination. Go to Uncanny X-Men #150 when he almost kills Kitty, and reforms. Go through New Mutants.
There's so much material to go through, man, that you'll 100% see how wrong your position here is.
I know at this point that you know it's wrong. What I don't understand is why you keep going, since it just discredits your position, when it can be stronger by using actual valid evidence.
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Slagging it? That's dumb af. Are you good? Magneto is not in anyway slagging enchanted Black Uru forged in the same Celestial forge as Mjolnir: (please log in to view the image)
Being able to thoroughly manipulate Wolverine's adamantium is not in anyway similar and that's a ridiculous argument.
There are levels to this shit. At best, you can argue, he'd do what he did last time, and repel it or something to that extent, but he's not the goddamn Molecule Man. He's not slagging any type of metal simply because it's metal. He isn't slagging Celestial armor, he isn't slagging the Destroyer, Uru, Adamantine or anything of the sort. Again, there are levels to this shit. Comics have made that abundantly clear for decades.
No, Magneto's shields withstood one blow before almost buckling soon after in one comic. A decade later, we have one panel of his shields withstanding a blow from She-Hulk and Thor (Hela's curse, so massively weakened).
That's so far gone from him being able to withstand Thor's blows repeatedly, I don't understand how you could make that connection. Would you like to compare what has buckled Magneto and what Thor has broken?
Thor's best power feats > Magneto's best shielding feats. If Thor gets on top and starts hammering away at Magneto, he is straight up f*cked.
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