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h1a8
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Magnetic shields propell lightning as strong as the the charge on the lightning. In other words, the stronger the lightning the stronger it will be repelled.

Also, Mags could simply rip Thor's metal from his arm, reform it to something sharp, and use it to kill Thor.

Mags could levitate Thor and turn him around.


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Magneto.

Truthfully one of the GOAT villains


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Originally posted by h1a8
Magnetic shields propell lightning as strong as the the charge on the lightning. In other words, the stronger the lightning the stronger it will be repelled.

Also, Mags could simply rip Thor's metal from his arm, reform it to something sharp, and use it to kill Thor.

Mags could levitate Thor and turn him around.


Thor is stronger than Magneto smile


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he doesn't need to be stronger, his control of EM radiation does:

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I specifically mentioned that some writers have treated it as regular lighting, which sometimes it is, but a vast number of instances, it is anything but and is actually defined as divine in origin depending on how he summons it.


So you want your cake and eat it too like always?

Under DnA, Thor specifically used divine lightning on Iron man and he manipulated it.
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Thor speciiticially channeled a bolt into Iron Man that separated Diablo from the Destroyer that was forcibly draining every pantheon in existence and attaining omnipotence. How the is that relevant here or evidence of anything but Thor's power having a far higher power ceiling. And Iron Man having a historically impressive channeling capabilities (Briefly, because he has strict
Limits) even against superior energy manipulators to Magneto lile the Silver Surfer.


That was just a specific weakness for Diablo controlled Destroyer.

Unless you think Thor is more powerful than Earth pantheon.

Are you suggesting Iron man is a better EM manipulator than ****ing Magneto?
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Also, what is your argument here? That Magneto can manipulate lightning? Of course. That's cool. Are you arguing he can do it better than Thor or match the limits of his power or that his shields can withstand it? A page ago you posted that Iron Man (Lol) can penetrate his shield....


I was just clarifying the myths regarding Magneto's shields.

He can manipulate lightning better than unworthy Thor without a doubt.


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they also held against dark phoenix among others.


You're color blind, leo? Or there really is an issue with Mags facing DP Jean...?


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lol no i admitted that error already. we were talking about something else and...i went colour blind. but it was only briefly. thumb up


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Originally posted by abhilegend
So you want your cake and eat it too like always?

Under DnA, Thor specifically used divine lightning on Iron man and he manipulated it.

That was just a specific weakness for Diablo controlled Destroyer.

Unless you think Thor is more powerful than Earth pantheon.

Are you suggesting Iron man is a better EM manipulator than ****ing Magneto?

I was just clarifying the myths regarding Magneto's shields

He can manipulate lightning better than unworthy Thor without a doubt.


Did you not read your own scans? Thor specifically channeled the lightning into Iron Man to blast Diablo Destroyer. How is that evidence of Magneto doing anything?

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He had no weakness, that was the point. Thor summoned divine transformation energies and channeled them directly into Iron Man to calibrate and focus into precision, not to kill him. And he failed the first time, Thor had to do it twice! Iron Man has channeled everything from the Power Cosmic to Captain Marvel's energy easily.

And why is it relevant here? Is Thor going to be working with Magneto or trying to beat the shit out of him? What is Magneto going to do when Thor summons that kind of power to actually defeat him?

laughing out loud

Oh I get it. So Diablo MUST have had a specific weakness that was never mentioned because otherwise, Thor overpowered the divine energies of every pantheon in existence and such a high end showing clearly doesn't make sense for anyone who isn't Superman. SMH.

laughing out loud

Thor vs. Magneto lightning manipulation battle zone? Unworthy Thor and Worthy Thor have the exact same powers over the weather. Mjolnir is not the source of his weather powers. Thor might not have the subtlety to manipulate atoms or something that delicate, but his raw command over the weather is just as powerful.


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Originally posted by leonidas
he doesn't need to be stronger, his control of EM radiation does:

https://imgur.com/a/dEXSx

https://imgur.com/a/WmlW3


The power Thor can summon through meteorological forces, both basic (Lightning) and unique (Cosmic storms) outstrip Magneto's capabilities over the EM spectrum. It ranges from superior, to far beyond depending on what showings you use. It'd be like Abhilgened vs. a paraplegic in a fist fight. Totally unfair to Abhilegend.


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Mags is nearly a match for worthy Thor. Unworthy is fu*ked here.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you not read your own scans? Thor specifically channeled the lightning into Iron Man to blast Diablo Destroyer. How is that evidence of Magneto doing anything?

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Did you read the scans? Tony had to manipulate the lightning when it was specifically divine by nature. That makes your point moot that anytime his lightning is manipulated, it's treated like regular lightning. Not that it was ever a point.
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He had no weakness, that was the point. Thor summoned divine transformation energies and channeled them directly into Iron Man to calibrate and focus into precision, not to kill him. And he failed the first time, Thor had to do it twice! Iron Man has channeled everything from the Power Cosmic to Captain Marvel's energy easily.


So you are telling us Iron man had to manipulate it all by his own? Horrors.

Are you saying Iron man is a better EM manipulator than Magneto? Go ahead and say it if you are serious about it.
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And why is it relevant here? Is Thor going to be working with Magneto or trying to beat the shit out of him? What is Magneto going to do when Thor summons that kind of power to actually defeat him?


Manipulate it and throw it at Thor to KTFO him.

After all that's what Cho did. I can't wait to hear how Cho is a better energy manipulator than Magneto.
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laughing out loud

Oh I get it. So Diablo MUST have had a specific weakness that was never mentioned because otherwise, Thor overpowered the divine energies of every pantheon in existence and such a high end showing clearly doesn't make sense for anyone who isn't Superman. SMH.


Exactly. Thor is a skyfather man. Able to only overwhelm Destroyer by such a sneaky manner and never able to do anything to it directly.

Iron man flat out says that the Diablo Destroyer merger is due to merger of science and divine and he separates them using the same method.

But don't worry, Iron man>>>Earth pantheons too. What a bunch of puny gods.
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laughing out loud

Thor vs. Magneto lightning manipulation battle zone? Unworthy Thor and Worthy Thor have the exact same powers over the weather. Mjolnir is not the source of his weather powers. Thor might not have the subtlety to manipulate atoms or something that delicate, but his raw command over the weather is just as powerful.


Sure. But worthy Thor and unworthy Thor don't have the same command over weather and that has been explicitly stated.

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You don't get to use worthy Thor feats for unworthy Thor and I do the battlezone. Right now even Storm has better lightning manipulation feats than Betason.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Did you read the scans? Tony had to manipulate the lightning when it was specifically divine by nature. That makes your point moot that anytime his lightning is manipulated, it's treated like regular lightning. Not that it was ever a point.

So you are telling us Iron man had to manipulate it all by his own? Horrors.

Are you saying Iron man is a better EM manipulator than Magneto? Go ahead and say it if you are serious about it.

Manipulate it and throw it at Thor to KTFO him.

After all that's what Cho did. I can't wait to hear how Cho is a better energy manipulator than Magneto.

Exactly. Thor is a skyfather man. Able to only overwhelm Destroyer by such a sneaky manner and never able to do anything to it directly.

Iron man flat out says that the Diablo Destroyer merger is due to merger of science and divine and he separates them using the same method.

But don't worry, Iron man>>>Earth pantheons too. What a bunch of puny gods.

Sure. But worthy Thor and unworthy Thor don't have the same command over weather and that has been explicitly stated.

You don't get to use worthy Thor feats for unworthy Thor and I do the battlezone. Right now even Storm has better lightning manipulation feats than Betason.


Your point has no merit when it is Thor channeling the lightning into Iron Man and specifically working together with him. Not trying to fry the shit out of him.

That would make sense except Iron Man was the focusing tool, not the source of power which was Thor. Your lowballing has no merit here. For the record, the power needed to overcome Diablo Destroyer would be far beyond any regular Skyfather. We saw the guardian of Otherworld in the reflection as well.

laughing out loud

That had nothing to do with him being without Mjolnir, and was reflective of his mental state of mind. Again, did you not read the mini? How could you so poorly miss the point? He realized the hammer is pointless and began his path again to being the greatest God who ever lived:
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In his next appearance, he even matches the Mother Storm against the Phoenix:
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Lol, you don't get to decide what does or does not count. Aaron has made it very clear that Thor's weather powers are distinct from Mjolnir and he was born the God of Thunder.


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Your point has no merit when it is Thor channeling the lightning into Iron Man and specifically working together with him. Not trying to fry the shit out of him.


Lolwut? He even warns Iron man that it might kill him but it was not at full power because Thor wasn't trying to kill Tony?

The excuses you toss are pitiful.
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That would make sense except Iron Man was the focusing tool, not the source of power which was Thor. Your lowballing has no merit here. For the record, the power needed to overcome Diablo Destroyer would be far beyond any regular Skyfather. We saw the guardian of Otherworld in the reflection as well.


Thor AND Iron man together did it. If was melding of magic and science that separated Diablo from Destroyer.

They did not overpowered Destroyer.

So Thor+Iron Man >>>Skyfathers, eh? No wonder they are so weak.
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That had nothing to do with him being without Mjolnir, and was reflective of his mental state of mind. Again, did you not read the mini? How could you so poorly miss the point? He realized the hammer is pointless and began his path again to being the greatest God who ever lived:
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Except he didn't suddenly become worthy and snapped out of his ***** phase.

He is still unworthy and hence he does not get regular Thor's feats.
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In his next appearance, he even matches the Mother Storm against the Phoenix:
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laughing out loud

So let me get this straight, you think Unworthy Thor can match mother storm which can "grant" power enough to beat Odin IYO?

Never mind that fighting someone side by side doesn't mean you are matching the other character.

But let me see some other mental gymnastics you do so well for Odin and Thor.
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Lol, you don't get to decide what does or does not count. Aaron has made it very clear that Thor's weather powers are distinct from Mjolnir and he was born the God of Thunder.


Yes, I can. He has made it clear that Unworthy Betason doesn't gets the power of worthy Thor.

Are you again chickenimg out of the BZ you asked for? It's about Unworthy Thor vs Magneto, not Unworthy Thor with worthy Thor's feats vs Magneto.

Talk about being a *****.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The power Thor can summon through meteorological forces, both basic (Lightning) and unique (Cosmic storms) outstrip Magneto's capabilities over the EM spectrum. It ranges from superior, to far beyond depending on what showings you use. It'd be like Abhilgened vs. a paraplegic in a fist fight. Totally unfair to Abhilegend.


i wasn't talking about his meteorological force, i was talking about his PHYSICAL strength. but your analogy is on point. thumb up


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Rage, don't even take abhi seriously. The kid bitches out of battlezones all the time. Phil recently berated him like a junior varsity player and he just took it like a beta. Abhi lowered his own stock and just pass him by. He isn't worthy of a battlezone.


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