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Pretty sure BP had WS beat both times they fought until external factors saved Bucky.

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If Winter Soldier actually wanted to kill Steve and Falcon, he could have picked up a gun and shot them both when they came downstairs and he still had the drop on them. We see more than one lying on the ground from the guys Bucky took out before they made it down. Hell, after BFR'ing Steve, he could have gone back and finished the job on Falcon too. But his priority was not killing, it was clearly getting out of the building.

And the Steve "holding back" argument only goes so far. He didn't intentionally get himself thrown down an elevator shaft, thereby giving Bucky a huge head start in his escape. If it wasn't for the delays caused by the others, Steve wouldn't have caught up in time. And earlier in the film, he still said that he had to be the one to take Bucky down because he was the least likely to get killed in the process. He might not have wanted to kill him, but he certainly didn't want Winter Soldier mode Bucky loose around others.

And Winter Soldier also wasn't running away from T'Challa. His agenda was clearly escape even before that, based on what we see. Hell, he gets the better of their initial exchange and floors T'Challa, but instead of pushing the advantage, he turns around and starts walking away.


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Both times Bucky fought T'Challa , Bucky was trying to escape. 1st time T'Challa had the suit which is a huge advantage for BP. Second time BP was suitless, and again Bucky was trying to escape. Most of that fight Bucky wasnt aware that T'challa was enhanced. Thats why he was surprised Tchalla was in his face again after he brushed him aside with a punch and walked away.


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Pretty sure BP had WS beat both times they fought until external factors saved Bucky.


You mean the instances where Bucky was in his right mind and clearly did not want to fight, while T'Challa was actively trying to kill him and wearing a vibranium suit that appeared capable of neutralising Bucky's robo arm's strength? Not exactly a fair comparison.


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^ Vibranium suit is standard for him though...

Or are we just comparing physical stats?

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^ Vibranium suit is standard for him though...

Or are we just comparing physical stats?


My point was more that those fights aren't necessarily the best representation of their respective skills/stats, because of the suit and the differences in mindset between the two characters.

It's like I've said before in other threads, if you flip the situation (give Bucky the suit and make him the bloodlusted one), things probably would have gone very poorly for T'Challa.


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