What happens when the next time they clock his top speed it gets listed at Mach 30 or so?
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Their official numbers are utter BS, so I tend to ignore them. I go by feats, and when the world is quite literally frozen from the Flash's perspective to the point where even explosions aren't moving, or he can run around the planet in like 10 seconds (while literally carrying bigass Bill Goldberg for half the trip), then he is WAY beyond Mach 30. The China run alone literally puts his speed in the Mach thousands already.
Plus, they've exaggerated the science talk to go with the new feats, because they were dropping things like Barry having "3 picoseconds" to reach DeVoe when he pops out of his little pocket dimension, and Barry said at the end of the episode that he is fast enough to do so. Which is a far cry from the 0.21 seconds he supposedly needed to cover like 80 feet just last season.
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You laugh about it now, but given CW's track record on this season of their shows, I wouldn't be surprised if they inexplicably make Iris the fastest and best speedster ever, despite having zero previous experience with it.
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Everything is BS as it's fictional, but my question is more if their official word is that Flash is only Mach xxxx, then are they wrong about how fast Flash is or were they wrong about the speed needed to complete a certain feat.
Take comic Flash for example, there was an issue where he evacuated a town in IIRC a few microseconds, which would have required millions of times light speed, yet the comic clearly states that he was moving just below light speed.
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They are wrong about the numbers in general, as they have consistently been since S1. He has a long list of feats at this point that would be impossible according to the numbers they have given in the past.
Hence why I don't bother paying much attention to those things. Because if the Flash can run back and forth between downtown Central City and Star Labs, have multiple conversations with other Speedsters and people he brought into "Flash Time", try different tactics, spend time doing long calculations on a white board, all while an explosion is barely moving at all, you don't need any numbers given to realise he is operating at a level of speed an extremely small list of people could match. I mean we can directly compare the QS mansion scene to this one and you don't need numbers to see which is better.
And if I do want to use numbers, I would just use my own calcs, or ones from people I trust. Like you can work out a number for the China feat, using its distance from the US, the time it took him etc. After all, the calcs used for people like QS and Smallville Clark etc. aren't really from the shows/movies so much as calcs people like you and I did.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Mar 9th, 2018 at 05:01 AM
Yeah, and this is very often the case with CW Flash. It sometimes feels like not even a single one of those writers passed a high school physics class.
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How do you feel about the example in my question though, where the comic feat is flat out stated to be performed at under the speed of light in the narration.
IMO since both numbers are only given in the narration, it's just as easy to say that they got the time wrong as it would be to say they got his speed wrong.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
It's a bit harder with comics IMO. Because you are still largely dependent on scene descriptions, written text etc. to know what's happening. The pictures on their own can't always give you a good time reference (unless, for example, there is another visual cue, like a falling object or something else to serve as a reference point). So, I personally wouldn't use those kinds of showings as standalone pieces of evidence. I'd look for other comparable feats of the character and hopefully find something that can provide a better frame of reference.
In contrast, with a tv show version, for example, the fact that the feats are performed live-action, and we actually see the motion, can check the time that passes etc. it's much easier to realise "wow, these writers are really talking out of their ass here" when something said clearly doesn't add up with something shown.
That being said, it also depends on just how inaccurate the discrepancy is IMO. If something is only a little bit off, then I can let it slide. But when it's something glaring, like the comic Flash example, then it's worth looking further.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Funnily enough, the most direct reference to the Flash's current speed was made in the last episode of Arrow, by the doctor who often ends up treating them, who claimed that he is faster than the speed of light. Which means nothing, really, because they once made a similar claim with Zoom.
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Well if you want some figures for Smallville...Lionel Luthor did say that Luthorcorp had clocked Brainiac at moving at nearly the speed of light. Which is 186,000 mps.
Also this crazy feat:
Skip to about 1:15
I will also note that although the clip doesn't show it, the photo Jimmy takes does not capture Clarks face, it just shows a red and blue blur. And you could see the light from the camera basically moving in super slow motion, and Clark even looks directly at it at one point.
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Well Barry said it takes 3 picoseconds for Devoes breach to close and that by end of episode said nhe was fast enough to do that. Someone who is better at Math than me could may be figure that out as to how fast he is.
Well, 3 picoseconds is 3/trillionths of a second, so to just cover 1m meter in that time would in fact require moving greater than the speed of light, if I am not mistaken. And by some margin too. Based on some quick calcs I did (though I fully admit that calcs done at 4:30am when suffering from insomnia might be flawed), he'd need to travel about 1111 times the speed of light to do that.
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So Flash now has the comic book power of grantingbspoed? Man he's gonna be damn near unstoppable when he gets speed steal
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If Flash is now 1111 times the speed of light, either his enemies are going to get massive upgrades or the show is going to be pure PIS.
I wonder which way DC will go.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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