He beat the Destroyer and no weapon on Asgard can stop him, which on last count included the Twilight Sword, Odin sword, Casket of Ancient Winters, Norn Stones and at least one more reality warping weapon. Loki as Sorcerer Supreme wouldn't f*ck with him. Asgard is also home to the World Tree, which is more potent magic than you'd find almost anywhere else in Marvel (Axis of the Multiverse etc.) He stomped Cul. The Phoenix would probably run from him. He crushed Ultimate Mjolnir. He's beating the shit out of Odin and Thor, even though they are not what they once were, if Galactus or a Celestial invaded Asgard today, I'd bet on that duo kicking ass.
The girls of Thunder and King Thor did way better against Galactus. A small portion of Asgard's army and the Destroyer raped the Sh'iar and the Imperials Guard. Remender and Aaron came up with a spell in Asgard's vault that could rape Celestials (The original bane of the Old Gods). He also had Odin blast a Celestial down from the First Host and kill it with the Phoenix etc. a million years ago.
Usually when someone is raping an enemy's fortress, they kind of ignore all the high end shit. Aaron is aware of it, and blatantly states that it doesn't matter. I don't know how Jane is going to pull this off, but it better be more then heart force. Aaron knows exactly how powerful Asgard can be. It makes Mangog that much scarier.
Anyways, Superman might chip a tooth before getting ripped in half I guess.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 04:06 PM
And yes, she seems pretty pissed against the BO. Nonetheless, you're the one who used averages, yes? Supes has way more showings than Thor. You need to average across his appearances.
One or two low showings for Thor has way more of an impact than with Superman with his 1001 showings.
That's a super loaded question. Even for a reply to Carver. Everyone's performance in team books has been subjected to ninja syndrome. Besides, it's metal master controlling Mjolnir that gave her some problems, she beat the shit out of Black Obsidian and the Blood Brothers.
If I made a respect thread for Jane and included all her fights and feats, I'm not sure which herald would be able to match her average. She's only been around for 3 years, but has crazy feats. I mean, your version of a bad showing for he is not casually stomping everyone on the Black Order because Metal Master is using Mjolnir against her.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 04:12 PM
You presuppose that Superman IS superior to her and so that automatically anything she does, he would be able to accomplish. Because her beating Mangog would be a superior feat to anything I see Superman accomplishing. It's not completely impossible but it's so far out the realm of the norm, it's like saying Hulk could beat Galactus because of that one time he did this because that one time Thor beat him. Yes, sure possibly, but, you're basically being Carver at that point.
Would Mangog rape Superman? Yes, almost certainly. BUT maybe that one of 100 times Superman wins, okay but who cares? Jane is dying, this is her last hurrah, this is her 1 of 100 fights to give it her all.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 04:24 PM
If you're implying that he wasn't more powerful than before, that would be nice, the title gave mad props to Loki as a Sorcerer but whatever authority is conveyed to a SS, Loki clearly had it, so it muddied the waters.