Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
So then perhaps a mental health exam prior to purchasing a firearm? Or come up with a system that gives you a license to purchase firearms after the specific mental exam?
81 posts so far, your threads are usually dogshit though, so quit projecting and go look at your shitty xps tucked in a sad corner of your pathetic life.
Part of being pragmatic is finding solutions that may stand a better chance of making it past partisan political barriers. Something tells me that a discussion on robust funding and implementation of rigorous mental health assessment and treatment might run into more than a few hurdles. Budgetary objections being one. Health insurance company lobbying being another. Admittedly I'm not an expert on the US's federally funded health care system and how it's implemented with medicare and medicaid.
So help a guy out with some info on implementation.
I'd only be ok with that if it applied to all rights.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
You really think you tech restrictions on guns have a better chance of making it past political barriers than things like improved background checks?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Are you going to just keep shifting the goalposts?
What would they even do in isolation? You could pass an improved background check now and even a rigorous mental health assessment and a year down the line suffer a mental breakdown and go on a killing spree.
What would an "improved" background check consist of?
So now you're complaining that I didn't re-list every single example and using it as an excuse to dodge my point by accusing of moving the goalposts. nice.
What makes you think your tech soultions will be easier to get passed than my ideas?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Doesn't infringe on 2nd ammendment rights while also addressing gun safety concerns so can potentially solve the impasse of the current debate.
Several potential technologies don't have huge implementation costs.
Many solutions use existing low cost and proven technologies.
Doesn't come up against partisanship issues with regards to health care spending or socialised medicine which are just as entrenched as the gun debate.
But again, what would an improved background check consist of? Particularly in relation to the mental health assessments as I'm guessing current legislation already has a grasp on criminal background checks?
Would it mean a federal database of citizens mental health records? Would gun dealers get access to that information directly or would they simply get a yes or no based on a federal employee's interpretation of those records? Would those federal employees be medically trained in mental health areas themselves or would they simply cross reference the details of the applicant against the database and get an automated response based on predefined criteria? How often would someone get a check up in order to keep the records up to date? How many mental health assessors would be required and how qualified would they be to make diagnoses? Would there be a follow up in terms of treatment for someone rejected on mental health grounds? Could they receive treatment and eventually be removed from blacklisting? How would they prove their treatment and its effectiveness? Who would make those assessments? How does all that relate to the Health Information Portability and Accountability Act and other privacy concerns?
Or would these improved background checks go down a different route? Internet search history of applicants? Membership of certain organisations? Family members criminal history?
Ignoring the cost of things like setting up geofencing all over the country. In order for your ideas to work they'd have to be applied to every gun in the country. You have 0% chance of getting that passed right now.
Even if by some miracle it did pass(never happen), any safety feature could just be bypassed or disabled. do you really think people wouldn't figure out work-arounds and post them within a few days? hell in 30 seconds I found dozens of vids about how to bypass a phones fingerprint scanner.
If somehow the tech was impossible to hack/disable(Again, never happen) illegal guns would just start pouring over the boarders like drugs do now and we'd be right back where we started.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Another idea that might work would be something that would function similar to a sprinkler system but would fire/spray vision-impairing (but totally harmless) smoke/mist (similar to what is used when one throws a smoke grenade). By adversly affecting the shooter’s accuracy, lives could be saved.
Edit function is broke so I guess I’d have to post additions to my idea on a separate post.
Tech (used by the military) is available where a device can pinpoint the exact location of a gunshot (and can differentiate this from other loud noises). This can act as a trigger to where/when the smoke is deployed.
Exactly, it's the typical fall back point to those "let's have a discussion" people.
Let's ban high capacity magazines..........no way they'll bring more and still reload super fast.....
Ban bump stocks..........that won't fix anything
Ban silencers..........silencers don't kill people
Let's talk and find a solution.......let's do mental health checks prior to the purchase of firearms............ (you never explained this.)
So back to square one, let's find a solution to this problem we'll keep "talking about it"......(and of course the purpose of that circular jerk off is to find no solution.)
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