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I'm pro gun, but people need to stop trying to blame TV and video games for violence. The 1st amendment is every bit if not more more important than the 2nd amendment so we don't need the government trying to control forms of art/expression. At most they can be pointed to as a symptom of an underlining problem, pretending that they are active problems in and of themselves is ridiculous.


Kind of like guns. they aren't the problem. it's the criminals using them that are the real problem.


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Kind of like guns. they aren't the problem. it's the criminals using them that are the real problem.

I totally agree.


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TBF, if we make all drugs legal, the illegal activity and violence that comes with such surrounding drugs sort of dries up. Can't really say the same for guns.


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Kind of like guns. they aren't the problem. it's the criminals using them that are the real problem.
Let’s extend that same logic to nukes. Nukes aren’t the real problem, it’s the people using them that are the real problem right? So if that’s the case why regulate which countries shouldn’t get nukes, just let Iran and North Korea have it

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"Hollywood glorifies violence, but blames the NRA and Conservatives"

I guess we have some special kinds of idiots here, no one where in the OP or subsequently did I state movies were to blame.

Gun violence can have consequences on Hollywood and they could think about adjusting their tone about violence if they are going to take up the tone that guns are bad.

Simple practice what you preach like this one woman actress did. How is that to hard to ask.


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TBF, if we make all drugs legal, the illegal activity and violence that comes with such surrounding drugs sort of dries up. Can't really say the same for guns.
That’s because drugs like marijuana are not in and of themselves harmful objects. The worst they do is make you lazy and hungry

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Let’s extend that same logic to nukes. Nukes aren’t the real problem, it’s the people using them that are the real problem right? So if that’s the case why regulate which countries shouldn’t get nukes, just let Iran and North Korea have it


You just answered your own question.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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"Hollywood glorifies violence, but blames the NRA and Conservatives"

I guess we have some special kinds of idiots here, no one where in the OP or subsequently did I state movies were to blame.

Gun violence can have consequences on Hollywood and they could think about adjusting their tone about violence.
Hollywood is about fantasy, it’s not real life...

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That’s because drugs like marijuana are not in and of themselves harmful objects. The worst they do is make you lazy and hungry


Another lie from an ignorant person. Weed causes all sorts of DUI's.


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Hollywood is about fantasy, it’s not real life...


Tell that to a crazy person.


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You just answered your own question.
Wow you’re even more unreasonable than I thought

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"Hollywood glorifies violence, but blames the NRA and Conservatives"

I guess we have some special kinds of idiots here, no one where in the OP or subsequently did I state movies were to blame.

Gun violence can have consequences on Hollywood and they could think about adjusting their tone about violence if they are going to take up the tone that guns are bad.

Simple practice what you preach like this one woman actress did. How is that to hard to ask.


What exactly was your point then?

"Hollywood" isn't being hypocritical since the last time I checked, no one went out and murdered someone with a reel of Die Hard 4 or similar. WHich has been the counter the whole time, movies and video games are not to blame as to why something like the Parkland murders happened.


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Let’s extend that same logic to nukes. Nukes aren’t the real problem, it’s the people using them that are the real problem right? So if that’s the case why regulate which countries shouldn’t get nukes, just let Iran and North Korea have it


Comparing nukes to guns now? One is controlled by governments only. How may people go around nuking each other?


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"Hollywood glorifies violence, but blames the NRA and Conservatives"

I guess we have some special kinds of idiots here, no one where in the OP or subsequently did I state movies were to blame.

Gun violence can have consequences on Hollywood and they could think about adjusting their tone about violence if they are going to take up the tone that guns are bad.

Simple practice what you preach like this one woman actress did. How is that to hard to ask.

I never said you did, but that train of thought still lingers from back in the 90s where it actually gained momentum among stupid people. I was simply addressing it in case someone brought it up in the past 8 pages of discussion I have no intention of going through individually lol. It's a stand alone thought and not necessarily aimed at anything said by anyone so far.


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What exactly was your point then?

"Hollywood" isn't being hypocritical since the last time I checked, no one went out and murdered someone with a reel of Diehard 4 or similar. WHich has been the counter the whole time, movies and video games are not to blame as to why something like the Parkland murders happened.


So wait, a crazy persons crimes and wanting to murder are only influenced by guns, not by anything else?

So therefore if a crazy person sees a gun, he has the idea to kill someone. Where did he come up with that idea? The NRA told him to?


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So wait, a crazy persons crimes and wanting to murder are only influenced by guns, not by anything else?

So therefore if a crazy person sees a gun, he has the idea to kill someone. Where did he come up with that idea?




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All I said is that blaming movies and video games is wrong


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Its wrong to blame something un related,

Its not wrong to address that the implications of that bad action can affect innocent by standards or industries.

Its also not wrong to take a stand as this woman did.


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Wow you’re even more unreasonable than I thought


The reason the vast majority don't want those countries getting nukes is because of the people in charge of those countries.

It's hilariuosly how hard you failed at crafting a gotcha scenario, in reality all you did was essentailly agree with my point.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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The reason the vast majority don't want those countries getting nukes is because of the people in charge of those countries.

It's hilariuosly how hard you failed at crafting a gotcha scenario, in reality all you did was essentailly agree with my point.


He working real hard to be an edge lord. Its not working out to well for him, thus he ends up looking foolish like he did here. He also apparently lied about putting you on ignore after you triggered him.


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Ah the ol' "it's the movies" fault.

Its like being back in the 80's

Wait til you find out about these new fangled "video games"


Looks more like calling out Hollywood as the hypocrites they are.

You can't claim a title of progressive while profiting off the very things you criticise.. Ethics don't work that way.


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