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Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader (Cont.), Sheev Palpatine vs Ahsoka Tano / Ezra Bridger!
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DarthPlaguis12
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If Ashoka and Ezra fended Sidious off it's just bad writing.. Ezra can't even beat the inquisitor without struggling, sidious should have easily defeated both if them...lol but that would have been the end of the show. But it's a kids show of course they're going to escape and beat the bad guy. They have a supposed Jedi killer like grevious losing to Ashoka who was a child.

Sidious is one of the best duelists in Star Wars canon, he stalemated yoda and IMO could have defeated windu but choose to fake a loss but that's up to debate. Force powers wise he again stalemated yoda.

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Well unfortunately, they axed that idea in Rebels.

I mean they could do it again, but a second time is too much I feel given the setup they had before, they can't do it again.

Doing it a second time would be better than letting Ahsoka live tbh.

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Doing it a second time would be better than letting Ahsoka live tbh.


They HAD IT though! ....Man I dunno why this really grates me, but it does(not that it shouldn't, but I feel it's moreso than it really should). It'd be like if Obi-Wan came back after his great sacrifice.


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They should bring back Dooku and have him defeat Vader to rejoin Sheev.


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no, they should make a book about how dooku learns to become a force ghost like quigon, and then have him connect with yoda again to apologize for all he's ever done, to redeem him smile

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They should give him the Maul treatment, have him show up with robot crab hands and get beaten up by Chopper and punked by a blindfolded Ezra. Maybe pratfall a few times.

In the final fight with Ahsoka he just dies of a heart attack and shits himself.


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wouldn't put it past filoni


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I bet Ahsoka survives into the ST on filonis sheer boner power.


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have him show up with robot crab hands



Lol

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no, they should make a book about how dooku learns to become a force ghost like quigon, and then have him connect with yoda again to apologize for all he's ever done, to redeem him smile
aww... love

That would've been believable of Dooku had it happened by Dark Rendezvous; Dooku being sorry for committing mas genocide and countless assassinations is kinda hard to believe otherwise.

Maybe Yoda still sensed some good in him, hence explaining why he exclaimed "Skywalker, no!" right before Anakin beheaded him in that TCW vision despite expressing intentions to kill the two sith right before arriving.

A force ghost Dooku could be interesting though...

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They should give him the Maul treatment, have him show up with robot crab hands and get beaten up by Chopper and punked by a blindfolded Ezra. Maybe pratfall a few times.

In the final fight with Ahsoka he just dies of a heart attack and shits himself.
Dooku has too much class to die like that.


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yeah getting his hands chopped off and dying while gaping like an idiot is much more dignified


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yeah getting his hands chopped off and dying while gaping like an idiot is much more dignified
Would you prefer that he begged for mercy?


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She was deflecting blaster bolts in the Ahsoka novel which is less than a year post-ROTS


I'm still not entirely sold on trusting the new canon novels for feats.

HTTJ is an exception though. New Dawn as well is a maybe. Even the Rebels isn't the best place for trying to powerscale and skill gauge.


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Dooku losing to Anakin like that was dumb.

Even in the new canon Dooku was slapping Anakin around a lot of the time, he was obviously a superior duelist and force user.

I think his loss to Anakin should be attributed to the boomerang affect the stunting Sith do can have (forgot the proper term. We saw how Luke beat Vader after Vader taunted him about Leai and Obi Wan was close to overwhelming Maul to it. Basically the Sith taunt their opponents to cause fear and demoralize them, ut can cause them to lose focus etc. but in certain instances such as Ive mentioned it'll backfire and the opponent will become enraged and attack even more ferociously.

He Aldo defeated obi wan easily.

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Dooku losing to Anakin like that was dumb.

Even in the new canon Dooku was slapping Anakin around a lot of the time, he was obviously a superior duelist and force user.

I think his loss to Anakin should be attributed to the boomerang affect the stunting Sith do can have (forgot the proper term. We saw how Luke beat Vader after Vader taunted him about Leai and Obi Wan was close to overwhelming Maul to it. Basically the Sith taunt their opponents to cause fear and demoralize them, ut can cause them to lose focus etc. but in certain instances such as Ive mentioned it'll backfire and the opponent will become enraged and attack even more ferociously.

He Aldo defeated obi wan easily.
In canon, yes, I'd definitely attribute his defeat to his failed use of Dun Moch, as well as pissing him off by incapacitating Obi Wan more than anything.

The RotS novel favors Dooku less, but factors like him counting on Sheev to save him, his overconfidence, and the jedi's fake stances at the beginning also contributed.


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I agree, I don't think that anakins light saber style should have contributed that much, Dooku could have called upon the force as well to make himself physically more powerful.

Remember how he kicked Anakin against the wall? If anything Anakins tapping into the darkside should be the winning factor

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[B]I'm still not entirely sold on trusting the new canon novels for feats.

too bad, it happened.

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They HAD IT though! ....Man I dunno why this really grates me, but it does(not that it shouldn't, but I feel it's moreso than it really should). It'd be like if Obi-Wan came back after his great sacrifice.

They should obi wan dying though. Leaving Ahsoka's fate ambiguous runied the moment.

TBF, it could work out. There is room for character growth between the charcaters, and Kenobi vs Maul ended up pretty great.

Not sure how they're going to fit the development needed to justify a second go with so little time.

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In canon, yes, I'd definitely attribute his defeat to his failed use of Dun Moch, as well as pissing him off by incapacitating Obi Wan more than anything.

The RotS novel favors Dooku less, but factors like him counting on Sheev to save him, his overconfidence, and the jedi's fake stances at the beginning also contributed.

He lost because Anakin, the force's son, grew more powerful.

It's not that hard.

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DarthPlaguis12
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Um no? He was only as powerful as obi wan at that point...why do you think when they tried to attack each other with the force they were equal.

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